US could ask tourists for five-year social media history before entry

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:man_facepalming:

:clown_face: behavior.

We still have 3 years of shit like this.

What if you don’t have any social media?

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There is an established precedent where they just won’t believe you (coming from what I know about F-1 Visa applicants who must set their accounts to public).

Most people are better off complying if they need to visit, and delete anything such as sensitive posts or stories that may result in a visa denial.

Well, what if you’re not lying and you really don’t have any social media? How can one comply then?

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You can’t unfortunately. Maybe they just won’t care for visitors with certain traits (cough cough race) but given that billions of people around the world have smartphones and some level of internet access, it’s more likely that the vast majority have at least 1 social media account created in the past 5 years. The ones who don’t because of a lack of resources probably won’t be traveling to the US for tourism or study.

If anything, DHS is more concerned about the people who actively deleted their social media presence to avoid this requirement compared to those who incidentally don’t have one. The latter is less likely to visit the US anyways.

An immigration lawyer should know more compared to me for the record lol

I see.

Well, like everything this admin is stress testing - we’ll have to see how this works. Pretty sure older people can get away with this because well, they are boomers.

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Safe to say, being a young person without a social media presence is improbable compared to a boomer with a flip phone.

I don’t think they will detain a old grandma because of this, but I won’t be surprised if they do.

I also wonder if sites like Letterboxd (movie review and cinephilia engagement website) counts as social media?

I mean.. people are on all sorts of platforms based on their interests. What even is social media in this case? Anywhere where you comment and share things online with others?

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I mean.. they don’t really need a valid reason. They can do whatever they want. So, why or why not of what they do really don’t mean anything.

Would an OnlyFans account be classified as social media? For a low $99/month subscription, the Fourth Reich can get exclusive uncensored photos of my toenail clippings.

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I know you’re joking but they want all accounts set to public. Like I said, clown behavior.

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Another thing that I just saw in the linked interview with Trump.

He stated that this will get a lot of “bad” people out of this country and listed murders, terrorists and mental ill people.

  1. This doesn’t get people out of the country it denies people who want to enter.
  2. Why mental ill people?? What the fuck …. The health care in the USA seems to get even worse now, if they want to get people with mental illness out of the country.
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The current Administration is often difficult to really understand when they announce things like this as they sometimes just re-characterize existing policy to sound new and tough. Then other times they actually do new draconian (and court proven illegal) things.

Telling the difference is important to know where the real threat is.

in this case, listing social media accounts for visa applicants is a very old rule. Is the five year look back new? Maybe. But fundamentally this doesn’t seem the new scary thing the headline makes it out to be and seems to be new messaging instead.

If that’s accurate, it means this is a distraction from real issues like ICE continuing illegal deportations and detentions.

Having gotten a US visa three different times from a place difficult to get from, I can tell you no one has every asked for my social media or any other info like it. Because you go to the visa interview and have a brief chat during which they decide whether you get one or not. If you do, you simply pick up your passport after a few days with the visa. If you don’t, you go home with your password in hand.

So, I am indeed inclined to believe this is new. Perhaps there could have been a difference for other visa category applications but I really doubt it still.

How old of a rule do you think this is anyway?

They can shove their country up their ass. I’d rather visit places that show some respect toward personal freedoms. 100% US big tech free lifestyle and that’s the way I’m gonna stay. They can shove their shonky software up their asses too whilst they are at it.

Unfortunate as this situation is, it isn’t right to place blame on all Americans and the entire country. It’s the fascist Trump regime and its supporters that are the problem. But visiting the US and US big tech are best avoided.

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They’ve already asked me account names of my social media and other online accounts. This was like applying in 2020. I got my visa at 2023.

They were already deleted since 2017.

Unless you have immigrant relatives there. I’m sure you wont leave them there all alone if you were able to travel.

So by sharing this meme I’m officially banned from the US now

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Interesting. The last time this regime was in power they made it a rule in 2019:

Maybe it was not uniformly enforced or perhaps it was suspended under the Biden admin?

To be extremely clear I’m 1000% against this and am very very pro-immigration. My earlier comment was not meant in anyway to endorse this rule but rather just try to filter out the massive amount of chaos to make sure we’re able to focus on the gravest and most immediately threatening issues.

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“An announcement on the website for the US Embassy and Consulate in Mexico states certain visa applicants must list all social media usernames or handles of every platform they have used in the last five years.”

what would prevent me from just giving them a few account names and say thats all?