Not necessary. It may be because Windows’s telemetry system fails to do its job.
It’s not a bad idea as long as you’re willing to do a fresh install and harden it manually.
I only really recommend Windows 11 for specific usage cases such as online gaming or exclusive professional applications.
Another benefit would be newer AMD-based laptops that traditionally have horrible Linux support. Not only is Linux support not prioritized by these OEMs, but they may have limited driver support for their Mediatek or Qualcomm wifi cards.
If you encounter this issue, there isn’t a lot of non-Windows options besides installing Fedora or Arch and hoping for the best. Cachy OS does have a custom kernel that theoretically supports most newer devices faster, but that is up for you to test.
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One new problem I’ve just encountered that I can’t solve:
If an old laptop I’m using here with a 32bit CPU running Windows 10 Pro 32bit edition will be supported by Windows 10’s Extended Security Updates because it definitely cannot run Windows 11 Pro…
Does anyone know???
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32-bit technology is almost considered retro tech… even if Micro$oft could support 32-bit extended support, a huge amount of apps aren’t compiled for 32b architectures anymore
Well yes, because they’re Windows laptops. I don’t understand why Linux users obsess over not buying Linux laptops then getting surprised at subpar support. I’ve had multiple RHEL-certified ThinkPads and firmware and driver support was excellent every single time. Maybe buy a Linux laptop next time?
The AMD64 architecture was introduced to desktop on 2003 September 23 with Athlon 64. Even on the lowest-end mobile versions of Pentium and Celeron, Intel 64 support completely took over around 2010 or so. Your 15+ year old laptop by any reasonable standard is retro hardware. There is no reason to attempt running modern OSes on retro hardware, because the experience in modern use-cases will be pretty much unusable. If you use it for retro stuff, then just go with Windows XP or something, it really doesn’t matter at that point.
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Also, I wouldn’t go the win11 route until they patch that windows update(anyone please let me know if they have yet or not, i haven’t kept up on it) that bricks your nvme drive on large file transfers.
IF and only IF
you can license the EDU or Enterprise edition. There is no escape from the end user malware-OS otherwise.
I have several SSDs and m2 disks in my PC, as well as a SSD in my business laptop. Nothing happened since years. I have 23H2 on business laptop and insider build 25H2 on PC (before that used 24H2 since it came to Insider)
Yep, well it depends, because I’m a victim of SSD failure. It’s been more then a month since I don’t have a main computer, so I can confirm and attest the SSD failure thing from Windows update is very real.
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I upgraded to Windows Pro from Windows Home for the extra security features, but you’re saying even Windows Pro isn’t enough???
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I was planning on installing Linux/BSD on this old 32bit laptop as it still runs great.
The issue is rare, but does happen:
Life is too busy and October is coming too fast for me to spend time attempting to switch to Linux right now, so I’m going to attempt Massgrave’s “Upgrade Windows 10 Home, Pro, etc editions to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 while keeping files and apps.”
Into here: Windows 10 Updates After End-Of-Life | MAS
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I thought about doing something like this but I decided to upgrade to Windows 11 Pro for my main PC.
So far so good, but there are so many updates I need to download and install from my laptop manufacturer.
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For those considering upgrading to Win11 there’s a big download of Win11 itself and then on top of that there’s a 3.9GB update to install after Win11 has been installed.
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I’m currently trying to remove as much bloatware as I can. Even the apps made by the laptop manufacturer(Acer) are being removed.
I had no idea it was going to be such a time consuming task!!! Can anyone recommend a good “speed up/remove unecessary features” article for Windows 11???
Wow, I’ve just endured an insane amount of Windows 11 Updates and driver updates. Two Windows 11 Updates totalled 8GB by themselves… Just a warning to anyone thinking it’ll be a quick update!
Putting lipstick on a turd…
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I guess that’s one way of looking at it ,but I need to have a stable and secure system before I can make the move to another OS or another platform and new apps etc. I’m trying to harden Win11 Pro as much as I can.
Upgrading from Windows 10 Pro to Windows 11 Pro seemed like my best option…
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By the way, what’s your setup look like?
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I stayed awake all night just to make sure that Windows 11 was fully installed and as secure as I could make it! ![]()
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If you focus on a secure Windows, you’ll probably need to sacrifice some privacy, for example using security features on Windows like Windows Defender, SmartScreen (I guess that’s the name of that thing) and probably other features, that’ll collect your data, of course. But if lack of privacy isn’t a problem then you’ll be fine.
One of the problems that I had with Windows some years ago, when I updated my computer some features were reverted back to its default [privacy invasive] options, and of course, reinstalled some bloatware again, like Microsoft Edge (what a pain in the fucking ass was that shit, glad I’m a Linux user).
What do I mean with this is that sometimes Windows could revert some changes in the future if you do certain things like updating Windows, or the Microsoft Store reinstalling back the bloatware you previously removed when updating apps there (in my personal experience), and probably you’ll have to debloat and reharden Windows routinely, and IMO moving to Linux its way more easy. Also, the more hardened and debloated Windows is, the broken with be.
But at the end of the day it all depends on the levels of security and privacy you’d like to get.
Don’t forget to track what changes you made on your system, and keep in eye on them if an app or update changes them.
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Moving to Linux is easier and better than that
You don’t need to license anything, I think even activation is optional now. But nowadays Linux on desktop/laptop is a much better experience than Windows, even when it comes to playing games (Proton). You couldn’t pay me to use Windows or other closed system like iOS or Android that disrespect their users.
Sorry, do you mean my OS and suchlike? Or something in particular?
I second this.