We haven’t really configured it as a PWA. It’s not meant to be used as a PWA. What platform? We prefer to have native apps on basically every platform.
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Facebook also uses legitimate interest to sell data in EU so definitely not private at all.
Android.
Any reason why? Or is this just a preference?
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Got it.
Yes, the difference is quite substantial - the native APK/Android app have a completely different UI, more features, native integrations (file upload/download, mailto: link opening, and more).
I’d really appreciate if anyone from the PG team could update on any questions or what’s going on with the PR. Just noting that we’re at 6 months, 300 replies, and almost 15k views on this thread!
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Okay, I’m replacing that “PWA” with the native app.
Yeah, this is getting insane.
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Can’t believe this thread is still going on. lol.
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We do it in our free time, so people get busy and don’t necessarily have time to work on the site. On GitHub, each PR requires at least 2 approvals by team members. There’s one already, and I suggested a few changes. I could force those changes but I wanted to make sure Jonah was ok with it first. Not a fan of just editing/merging someone else’s PR without getting their approval first 
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Appreciate it. No rush, of course.
If anything it just means people really respect the PG process and approval 
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Any chance of getting a timeline on notifications in the Android app?
I know you’ve said before that it would require building a replacement for Google Play Services but that isn’t what we are looking for or expecting. All we need is for the app to poll the server every so often like other email apps do (eg. K9 Mail).
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The app does poll for new emails, but it doesn’t send notifications yet. I don’t think it is it that much work.
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What do you mean by we? Signal has polling and the battery life is absolute garbage. I would rather have a better notifications implementation.
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Is this why I have to install extra software when I install the Skiff desktop app?
I tried installing Skiff in Sandboxie-Plus, and then I’m asked to install “Microsoft.NETCore.app” and after I do so, Skiff crashes on startup.
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The Windows desktop app uses the WebView2 framework on Windows to render some content. I haven’t heard about many crashes yet but can start looking into it.
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Signal needs to poll constantly because it is an instant messenger. Email doesn’t need that sort of frequency (K9 Mail has never been considered a battery burden for example). Although personally I don’t have any battery problems with Signal.
I actually would prefer notifications to be implemented and notifications via intermittent polling is the fastest route to achieve that. I don’t believe there is any other foss android app that has implemented a replacement for Google Play Services that does not involve polling of some sort. Tutanota went for a unique approach but it still effectively is polling - see How Tutanota replaced Google’s FCM with their own notification system | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
I think expecting Skiff to do anything beyond some sort of polling solution is misguided. I hope Skiff dedicate their coding resources to more realistic projects and simply provide standard polling type notifications that can be achieved relatively simply.
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I could also open up a PR if you think that would be easier. It seems like we’re in the last stretch so I don’t want to step on Jonah’s PR toes, but let me know if this would help the team.
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Skiff is pretty amazing now but they still have one dark pattern inside their Email.
You can’t export SENT emails.
They added the export ability for inbox, but not for sent emails.
I’ve reported it a month ago but it seems to get ignored
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This isn’t a dark pattern- it’s a feature that will come soon. We are working on total inbox export by folder/label etc. Nothing gets ignored, but we do have a small team so we can’t ship everything as quickly as we want to. We still have a lot of improvements to make.
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I’m excited and can’t wait for Drive improvements.
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Please, stop calling everything dark pattern or spyware blindly. Every feature costs money and time. You may critique the approach the companies follow, but dark pattern is just an exaggeration.
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I don’t think they knew what exactly is a dark pattern.
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