Replace AdGuard for Safari recommendation with uBlock Origin Lite

Might worth getting recommended instead of AdGuard in the future?

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worth recommending of course, Let me know when that comes out, the page will soon be just uBlock Origin and Origin Lite heh

Added waiting tag since it’s currently in beta. Once in stable I see no reason why the existing uBlock Origin Lite recommendation shouldn’t extend to all supported browsers.

Whether the existing AdGuard recommendation should be removed is arguably the bigger question here.

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Nice to see Safari getting a good content blocker

is this on desktop? mobile prob just has this

On mobile. Adguard is PG’s current recommendation for iOS, and HyperWeb comparitively seems to have a less established track record.

Adguard Pro has been really solid for me on iOS.

I’d prefer uBlock Origin if it were possible, but since it isn’t possible, I’m happy enough with Adguard. I wonder how uBO Lite will compare. I have only very limited experience with Lite, so I’m not fully aware of its limitations, nor how iOSes own limitations might impact it (or not).

If/when it is released, I’ll be excited to try it out.

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Hyperweb does not seem to be available for all countries

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Thats very exiting! I’d love ublock for iOS. I always try to use firefox + ublock origin but on iPhone I am stuck with safari (no real third party browser with a different engine available despite the eu rules) where I sadly canā€˜t use ublock origin. I used adguard in the past but the russia topic kind of made me lose trust. Since then I use Firefox focus, which is not as good but still better than nothing.

Small but meaningful (pedantic) clarification: ā€œuBlockā€ =/= ā€œuBlock Originā€ (uBO) =/= ā€œuBlock Origin Liteā€ (uBOL)

The latter two come from the same developer/project, and the former is unaffiliated.

uBlock Origin Lite (uBOL) is a more feature and capability limited version of uBO that was made to work within Google’s new MV3 limitations for Chrome. What is being worked on currently is being called a ā€œminimally working uBOLā€ for iOS so don’t expect the full uBO experience or featureset.

Still it’s positive news, some uBO(L) for iOS is better than no uBO for iOS :slight_smile:

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Thanks for the clarification, did not know that! I am curious how this ā€žminimally working uBOLā€œ compares to firefox focus

TIme will tell I guess. I think uBOL is probably more capable than Firefox Focus’s content blocking on its own, but I don’t know what Gorhill (uBO/L developer) means by ā€œminimally workingā€ and I don’t know what iOS specific limitations might further limit uBOL beyond its existing limitations.

There is already a signed MacOS version! Safari issues to resolve for a minimally working uBOL Ā· Issue #327 Ā· uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home Ā· GitHub

I’m wondering whether the AdGuard extension is more performant since it uses Safari’s content blocker API. It also doesn’t need the developer to update their extension just to update filterlists.

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Why not just use Brave ?

Not sure if this question is meant for @securitybrahh or me (Since you quoted them, but replied to my comment) but my answer would be:

Because I couldn’t find a good answer to the inverse question: ā€œWhy not just use Safari?ā€

I did initially try Brave, and do have it installed, but I couldn’t find any comparative advantages to Brave iOS over Safrai. I thought it might have more sophisticated adblocking but its not meaningfully better, I thought it might have better blocking for PWAs but it doesn’t, that is an iOS limitation. Basically I didn’t find anything especially wrong with Brave on iOS, but I also couldn’t find any reason to prefer it to Safari + Adguard.

The answer was for @securitybrahh because I didn’t see the need for this custom browser that may not be trustworthy.

But there are still concerns about Safari data collection

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In that case I agree with you, Brave (or Safari + Adguard) makes more sense than a rather unknown browser with an adblocker.

But there are still concerns about Safari data collection wanting the coarse location permission Surfshark Blogpost

The only reference I see to Safari in that article mentions that it asks for the coarse location permission on iOS which is just an app permission, and isn’t totally unreasonable for a browser, it doesn’t indicate ā€œdata collectionā€ though it could be used for that purpose.

Still, I’d agree it’s a permission to be aware of, and possibly disable. And because it’s just an app permission, it’s in your control whether you want that permission enabled or not.

But realistically, if you are using an iPhone you are already choosing to trust Apple to responsibly handle location data on your device, regardless of your browser choice or whether that browser is granted access to location information. Because irrespective of the browser you choose or the permissions you give it, you must trust the OS and hardware which is in a much more privileged position wrt location data than the browser is. If Apple intended to do nefarious things with your location data, they wouldn’t need to use the browser to do so.

Why a browser would want access to location info?

I personally prefer my browser to not be location aware unless I explicitly allow it (beyond what can be inferred from IP). but I can understand why mainstream browser makers catering to mainstream users (whose search queries often look like: ā€œweatherā€ or ā€œmovie timesā€ or ā€œCafe near meā€) ask for the location permission. Even for us in the privacy space, there are valid reasons we might want to allow the browser location access to location info (e.g. if you use Google Maps in the browser or Uber’s webapp instead of the mobile app as harm reduction strategies). With that said I still feel it would be better if it was opt-in and an explicit choice (maybe it was, I don’t actually recall).

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/+ Safari is native to IOS.

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It is now notarised and available, but not yet full stable release Release uBOLite_2025.5.7.895-beta Ā· uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home Ā· GitHub

BTW: uBlock origin Lite is back on Firefox for real this time

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