Retained? Perhaps I am not understanding the way you’re explaining. Please elaborate and explain for no ambiguity.
No it isn’t. Still a bypass method. Why is it a “completely different” story?
Not to mention, the fact you’re even suggesting a solution that you appear to be okay with means you’re for age verification. That’s a misguided belief no matter how well you think there is a solution that can work.
if you cant bypass passkeys you wont be bypassing age verification
what you mentioned is a completely different scenario to be resolved
But that’s what I am saying can easily happen with desktop Linux. How do you ensure this doesn’t or cannot happen on desktop Linux? - is what I want to understand.
I think you missed the fact that usually you would scan it on a browser
not on some open source or propriatery app within the operating system, I think I suggest researching how passkeys work in the case of using an iPhone or Android
and look you see that even pornhub hates it but they’re demanding a good enough solution so that they dont get fined badly by these governments who mandate age verification
Then it is not device based age verification then, is it? (which is what this OP is about)
search how passkeys in the case of using an Android or iOS device works thanks
this tech isnt something that can be bypassed, otherwise it would be a very vulnerable way to handle them,
They also have a choice to not operate or provide access to places where it is blocked. They don’t necessarily have to comply.
until the EU steps in and makes age verification too (which they luckliy didnt but there was an attempt and who are we kidding) then they have no market to serve to, they wouldnt have much of a choice if that happened
This will still not deter people from getting those age verified passkeys even on open source systems if every website starts mandating it before accessing the website. Also, VPNs and Tor exists and not every country is going to mandate this.
Why are you so for it in the first place? Why or how do you not detest this idea?
the post is literally about phub urging these companies a solution, you argue this leaves linux users and Android ineffective when that couldn’t be further from the truth depending on the implementation which is why I brought up a passkey like system as a counter argument.
Yeah, right now I am more asking and wondering about a larger question at hand I have for you (if you are okay answering)
when did In all contexts this goes from this to for or against, I am trying to debunk things here.
This has nothing at all to do with our stance
Based on your responses for discussing a solution that you believe to be at all viable heavily implies if not proves that you are in fact for it. There is no other way I read it. And that’s why I ask the question more directly to get where you stand and why.
This may not. But that is my question nonetheless, if you are amenable to entertain it.
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I am against age verification, until governments makes it mandatory that it needs to be secure enough that external actors (data breaches for example) can’t get access to that data.
Which I understand they very well don’t care, which is why im a little surprised Phub is mandating these big tech companies to make a viable enough solution. Even then as it currently stands, against
See now, as I read that statement, it is contradictory.
So, you are in favor of it under certain conditions. If this is the case, which it appears to be as you have a caveat for what you’re seemingly against - this doesn’t make you against. You are only against the current proposals for it. Not the idea entirely. So, I don’t think you can conclusively claim your unconditional opposition which by simply saying I’m against it means.
since goverments wont even bother making law that they have to be secure and private enough, I stand against regardless, throw me in the cold bath water if it ever happens but I would bet not.
I still prefer we haven’t discussed that
That’s not what we’re discussing anymore (which we can going forward though). I just wanted to understand your stance - and now I do. Thanks for clarifying.
But yes, otherwise - I know governments don’t care. They want to get the hands on everyone’s data any way.
What this ask of Pornhub is to the device / OS makers is a ‘pass the buck and responsibility’. Pornhub would save maybe millions (dollars or Euros) if they pass such decisions off to others to handle. That includes future legal bills should their possible future implementation fails.
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