Esim and privacy

So the encryption key is wrapped by an effaceable key and only the effaceable key is deleted? How does it affect the encryption key if only the effaceable key is deleted?

Also i’m still paranoid about the odds of the encryption being broken.

From where does your paranoia stem?

This is a non issue at this point and you should not worry. But it will be irrational of you to continue to.

If that key is deleted all the other keys are inaccessible. It’s located in a dedicated area of storage that’s designed to be quickly and securely deleted.

A long time ago a friend of mine got me into data privacy when I didn’t really care about it but I went with it because I needed a hobby. But I adopted his all or nothing about data privacy and it became a toxic investment for me.

Yeah, that’s bad. But at least you seem to realize this. Everything is not binary and you should not view things in this space as black or white. Being more thoughtful, mindful, and nuanced is healthier.

I hope you are able to change such absolutist thought processes. Don’t be a sith! /s

The thing is though to me if it all rests on the encryption keys being deleted then what if someone finds a way to break the encryption and then access deleted files? Unless it rests on the idea that “encryption is mostly a solved math problem these days.” But couldn’t the encryption still be broken?

This concern exists for everyone on the planet (even nuclear powered nation states & intelligence services). Current tech may not crack very strong and secure passwords. But quantum computers are coming. And that’s why post quantum encryption is already becoming a reality for that seemingly inevitable future.

So, this is nothing new. The concern has always existed. You do what you can now and keep up with whatever security you can adopt.

Like I said, this is a non issue at this point.

Okay, thanks for the help.

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I don’t mean to disparage your concerns but the data is gone. It can’t be put together.

To still humor you: by the time, if at all, such sci-fi tech becomes available where deleted data can be reconstructed somehow, it truly won’t matter.

I hope you learn to evaluate concerns better that doesn’t lead to unwarranted paranoia. Good luck!

I’m not really the most tech informed person so covering everything just makes it easier for me. that being said this might be a silly question but I used to think privacy was about hiding information from prying eyes for the sake of it but after reading on the privacyguides website it seems like it’s a security effort to keep information from being exploited. Is that the case?

Privacy is all about the controlled release of information: you want only the data you want to go to exactly the people you want. Any time your data is exposed to another party without your knowledge or consent it’s a privacy violation.

That could be a platform like Facebook sharing your social graph with advertisers without your knowledge or it could be a hacker that exploits your phone and dumps all your passwords onto a public database.

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I had read that deleted data is only really gone if it’s overwritten which is why I was asking so much.

Privacy sometimes means different to different people. For people living in regimes hiding their activism from the government, its about keeping yourself safe while educating the oppressed. For others in the West, it’s about taking back control of your information so you no longer continue to be a cog (as much as possible) in the surveillance late stage capitalistic society.

I suggest you keep reading and learning to form healthier views of what privacy and cybersecurity really is about. Passion for the sake of it does not yield good results and is also not sustainable.

What do you mean by cog?

First, I did not mean you specifically. I meant that more generally and in a manner of speaking as people say.

Second, one piece of the system where one knowingly or unknowingly continues to be seemingly worry free continue abiding by the abuses of the big tech because that’s just how its always been.

Third, don’t overthink what I am saying. As long you understand what I am saying and that it is not meant to be a slight, that’s enough.

No I meant I don’t know what cog means

Sorry for probing so much but is all deleted data overwritten?

No it’s not. Drives simply mark it as available space and at some point might overwrite it when you store some more data. If you have encryption it doesn’t matter so much since you need the encryption key no matter what, which is why encrypting your data is so important.