Should /e/OS and the Fairphone be added to Privacy Guides? Since it is now available in USA too: Fairphone's repairable smartphone goes on sale in US for the first time -- in a 'deGoogled' Murena e/OS variant | TechCrunch

No: https://divestos.org/misc/e.txt < many issues I document https://divestos.org/misc/ch-dates.txt < /e/ is 23 updates behind Chromium WebView/Browser https://divestos.org/misc/a-dates.txt < /e/ is 2 months behind ASB + 1 year behind PSB on latest branch offered https://divestos.org/misc/appsec.t…

I could say it’s still better than most stock androids, but perhaps not with the potential mitigation and modifications one could do to harden those in terms of security and privacy limitation/sandboxing. I appreciate the attempt from /e/ but PrivacyGuides prefer recommending quality recommendation…

The other problem with these devices is that they still use Qualcomm SoCs and have limited firmware support in line with what that vendor offers. We consider it deceptive to claim extensive support periods when the firmware clearly is not included. We discuss that on this page: [image] And…

Bummer, since it is one of the few devices that comes degoogled by default

@Nostradamus [image] Nostradamus: degoogled by default it literally phones home to Google immediately out of the box, downloads & executes proprietary Google code for Safetynet, and contains Google Widevine for DRM… that is the opposite of “degoogled”.

[image] anon63378630: it literally phones home to Google immediately out of the box, downloads & executes proprietary Google code for Safetynet, and contains Google Widevine for DRM… that is the opposite of “degoogled” Source? And if that is the case it is strange that it is not talked more …

@Nostradamus [image] Nostradamus: Source? My first link… Phones home to Google out of box, despite being “degoogled” GmsCore/microg.xml · main · e / os / android_prebuilts_prebuiltapks_lfs · GitLab Enables Safetynet checks by default which downloads and executes obfuscated proprietar…

Even advertises Netflix on the website, see the third carousel image in the third phone mockup down That one says nothing, Netflix can work on microG and without DRM although with limited resolution.

Neither Netflix or Widevine depend on Play Services/microG. There is some content in some regions that Netflix may playback without DRM available on host, but it really wants Widevine in the majority. And again, the point here as literally linked the source code is that /e/OS contains proprietary …

[image] anon63378630: Neither Netflix or Widevine depend on Play Services/microG. Netflix doesn’t run on a Android TV without MicroG/Google Services so it uses it to some extent, although I haven’t test on a phone so you may be right if the implementation is different. In the end, my point wa…

Enables user to use all their apps is not a bad thing :thinking:

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No:

https://divestos.org/misc/e.txt < many issues I document
https://divestos.org/misc/ch-dates.txt < /e/ is 23 updates behind Chromium WebView/Browser
https://divestos.org/misc/a-dates.txt < /e/ is 2 months behind ASB + 1 year behind PSB on latest branch offered
https://divestos.org/misc/appsec.txt < /e/ PDF Viewer uses PDF engine from January 2016

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