AOSP isn't dead, but Google just landed a huge blow to custom ROM developers

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I think it is really clear that custom RON developers work is much much harder, GrapheneOS team is still struggling to have a stable release. I am not sure how long is this sustainable.

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Come on don’t be so negative. Even if worst case scenario google decides to stop collaborating and closes android from custom roms on pixel phones, I’m sure the GOS team would find another way to develop their OS on another type of phone. And besides, GOS is not the only one in this struggle. As I understand it, this change impacts other custom roms developers as well (Lineageos, Calyxos, …). So, they can always team-up or maybe make a contract with a company to manufacture phones that meet their requirements and “fork” android or god knows what else. I’m sure developers will find another way as usual. I mean people have been hacking the iphone for years now, to jailbreak it and to install tweaks that are forbidden by apple. I mean this is the most complicated reverse-engineering task ever and they still manage to do it very rapidly. You know I really love this community here at privacyguides.org, but sometimes you guys look like the slightest obstacle, not matter how small, make you lose all your faith and trust in a product/service/project just like with the bitwarden drama. Man relax and read their post on mastodon, GOS is still here and alive and they clearly believe in their work, so be confident. I am, and I just bought a pixel phone just for GOS.

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I’ve been running GrapheneOS 16 for a few days now, it is perfectly daily drivable.

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And so do I.

Actually I don’t even notice a difference between 15 and 16, stable wise.

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And no support (apps available) from main organizations, companies, governments. Basically like linux phones today, maybe some Android emulation, so no banks, ids, payments… I mean, Microsoft couldn’t push 3rd mobile OS with their resources, so there is no way anything else would succeed.

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until you use the profiles feature, it is so buggy, hopefully it is fixed in A16.
Bugs I find from my years aside, indeed very daily drivable

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Why do you think it is a good idea to promote their misinformation and snake-oil products?

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Cute that you think it is a promotion.

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not even 5 minutes in and it is filled to the brim with misinformation:

  • “mentally unstable leader of GrapheneOS”
  • “negative cult he cultivates”
  • “instead of just changing portions of Android called the Android framework, which is typically the only thing changed by other customs roms, and this means accessing the linux layer and deeper parts of the source code”
    • wrong
  • “google could have deliberatly made this decision to cut off grapheneos and calyxos, maybe it is because of other reasons, we don’t know”
    • we know it is because of the antitrust
  • “the linux level source code in android is now inaccessible on pixels”
    • wrong
  • “the effect of this on GrapheneOS is that while it can still make changes to the open source called AOSP otherwise called the Android framework, low level device code can no longer be altered on a google pixel”
    • wrong
  • “this has so many effects including killing features such as verified boot, changing the libc libraries, or low level linux functions”
    • wrong, wrong and wrong
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Didn’t watch the video, but he’s probably talking nonsense trying to shill his own phone.

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Ah yes two keyboard warriors at war, how cute. :sneezing_face:

Isn’t that just a theory? I haven’t seen anything official from Google?

So true :rofl: the last part of the video is just shilling his own phone.

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Good news: I got the update to Android 16 on GrapheneOS today.

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