I think silverblue is still better if ubuntu doesn’t have immutability just yet.
Silverblue feels appropriate for intel/radeon graphics. But because of the need for 3rd party repository, thus breaking the “atomicity” in principle, Nvidia feels better on the regular Fedora.
ohhhh I have to think about this, thank you!
This does not break atomicity, it simply means that updates and other changes will take longer to apply. The process itself is still atomic.
makes sense
Because their line ups are NVIDIA only, which don’t work well under Wayland (until recently)?
So there’s nothing else that makes it not recommended? I can just enable Wayland and then use it?
It says it already uses Cosmic? Am I missing something?
Yes, they named their lightly tweaked version of gnome, Cosmic, before they decided to make their own Desktop Environment (also called Cosmic) that is the source of the confusion, (what you are reading is referring to the former, not to Cosmic the desktop environment).
Pop OS doesn’t officially support Wayland (yet). If you enable Wayland, you may encounter bugs.
Also, the current release of Pop OS is based on Ubuntu 22.04, so you are stuck with some pretty old packages in the repos, which Privacy Guides recommends against.
With the COSMIC release in late alpha now (and expected full release towards the end of Q1 2025), would it be worth beginning to recap whether it will live up to the requirements for being recommended?
I’d still hold off on actually recommending it until the stable release is out, but it seems that most of the issues in this thread are resolved in the COSMIC release.
Let’s just wait until it’s out, no need to rush anything.
How the Cosmic release addresses been stuck with Ubuntu release cycles?
According to their documentation they do rolling releases:
Pop!_OS is built from Ubuntu repositories, meaning you get the same access to software as Ubuntu. Based on both user feedback and in-house testing, we continue to make changes and updates to the operating system for quality-of-life improvements. The best part is, updates are kept on a rolling release cycle, so you don’t have to wait around 6 months for bug fixes or improvements to your OS. [1]
This is quite exciting to see things are closer for general acceptance with pop os.
I’ve been testing it out for almost a year now for a year to see if there is finally a Linux version that I can successfully move my family to and from the stuff all my nontech family cares about so seeing that the main concerns brought up here may be adressed shortly is great.
PopOS has a very outdated veesion of gnome which does not support the lates security features of wayland unlike latest gnome versions.
Not to worry, we’re not discussing the 22.04 LTS, but the future 24.04 release with COSMIC, which does support and defaults to Wayland.
Surprisingly, Michael Bazell recommends Pop! OS doesn’t recommend any other Linux distribution. I wonder why PG feels differently from him.
Has there been any thought of revisiting pop!_os now that Cosmic is ready? Are there benefits to at least switching to Cosmic on Fedora while this is being revisited? Or, are the benefits of Cosmic best enjoyed when paired with pop!_os?
I installed it to see what all the fuss was about and I have to admit it’s great.
Simple to install, encrypt, number of preinstalled packages comparable to Fedora, easy enabled codecs, packages that I use just worked and are pretty up-to-date. DE is has rolling updates and majority of packages also (kernel, mesa, etc).
COSMIC really feels like home for my user needs and I’ll keep on using it. I can see it taking a huge percentage of marketshare from GNOME and KDE very soon. Also. I’m sure it’s more secure, minimal and modern than them.
Oh yea, everyone has a .deb package available when needed… that can’t be said for Fedora and .rpm (government apps, etc).
TLDR:
It’s great and I’m going to recommend it to everyone who wants to use Linux.