# Why there is no Chrome Webview/Firefox Webview on Windows?

**URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/why-there-is-no-chrome-webview-firefox-webview-on-windows/17909
**Category:** Off Topic
**Created:** 2024-04-17T06:08:34Z
**Posts:** 5

## Post 1 by @anon34108895 — 2024-04-17T06:08:34Z

There is only Edge webview runtime on Windows.

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## Post 2 by @jonah — 2024-04-17T06:18:28Z

This is why Electron exists.

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## Post 3 by @sha123 — 2024-04-17T08:28:11Z

Electron unfortunately is not a replacement for a WebView and has vastly different security properties. Electron apps often have severe security issues compared to a Chromium-based WebView:

- Not keeping up with security updates
- Deactivated sandbox
- If sandbox is enabled, lax IPC and permissions allow for easy sandbox escapes and access to sensitive data
- Exposing huge attack surface, despite not keeping the security of Chromium intact.
- Electron should never be used with untrusted web content. WebView can do that.

See [Critical vuln that lets miscreants hijack computers via Slack? \*Sucks in air\* We'll give you $1,750 for it • The Register](https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/31/slack_app_electron_bug_squashed/)  
and  
[Platform Security Part Deux with Justin Schuh](https://securitycryptographywhatever.com/2021/08/21/platform-security-part-deux-with-justin-schuh/) (search for “electron”)

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## Post 4 by @Sharply — 2024-04-17T12:31:16Z

More info from Daniel Micay [here](https://github.com/secureblue/secureblue/issues/193#issuecomment-1953323680) as well.

Huge bummer that Signal chose to use Electron on desktop, same with Proton’s mail desktop app. :pensive_face:

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## Post 5 by @BionicBison — 2024-04-17T17:18:29Z

This is why I use PWAs when I can. For the 90% of Electron apps that are little more than repackaged websites with little need for the deeper OS integration that Electron sometimes provides, it’s basically just swapping out the dubious separate install of Chromium that may be outdated or have weaker security measures in place with your trusted, up-to-date browser that also guarantees you more privacy features in the case of something like Brave, especially since extensions like uBlock Origin also work inside of PWAs.