# Which Common Apps Ban Users Only for Using GrapheneOS? **URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/which-common-apps-ban-users-only-for-using-grapheneos/24376 **Category:** Questions **Created:** 2025-01-25T20:56:26Z **Posts:** 17 ## Post 1 by @anon24991200 — 2025-01-25T20:56:26Z I’ve read that some apps, like Revolut and X, ban users simply for using GrapheneOS. It’s important for everyone to know which popular apps might ban you due to this operating system, so we can avoid using them on that OS. Some of the apps I’m concerned about include WhatsApp, X, Discord, Reddit, Amazon, eBay, AliExpress, Etsy, PayPal, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Google Maps, TikTok, and others. Additionally, if there are ways to configure GrapheneOS to avoid getting banned, that information would be greatly appreciated. --- ## Post 2 by @TinFoilHat — 2025-01-25T21:58:34Z Techlore has [this list](https://plexus.techlore.tech/). Not exhaustive for sure so we all can contribute if we find something new. --- ## Post 3 by @anon42475305 — 2025-01-25T22:32:20Z That list has nothing to do with apps which intentionally block GrapheneOS using the Play Integrity API or other flawed heuristics. From a pure compatibility standpoint (without considering intentional blocking) GrapheneOS with sandboxed play services will inherently have superior compatibility than MicroG. The vast majority of apps do not block GrapheneOS. The exceptions are usually banking apps. A very incomplete list can be found here: [Attestation compatibility guide | Articles | GrapheneOS](https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide#apps-banning-grapheneos). As far as I am aware, none of the apps you listed block GrapheneOS. If any did choose to do so using the Play Integrity API, GrapheneOS would not be able to bypass it. The developers will add a feature to notify users when an app is using the Play Integrity API in the next update. Keep in mind that the most basic level [MEETS\_BASIC\_INTEGRITY](https://developer.android.com/google/play/integrity/verdicts#optional-device-labels) does pass for GrapheneOS so while those apps will (presumably) also show the notification, they still work on GrapheneOS. --- ## Post 5 by @anon42475305 — 2025-01-26T07:29:27Z > [@anon24991200](#): > > When will the next update happen? It’s been given the release number 2025012600, so it should come today. > [@anon24991200](#): > > So, when GrapheneOS gets updated and sends a notification saying that an app is using the Play Integrity API, does that mean it’s better not to use it because there is a risk of getting banned, or does it just mean that the app wouldn’t work? Keep in mind that I don’t know exactly how it will function but I know that there will both be a notifications which warns that an app uses the Play Integrity API and a toggle for blocking requests to the API (presumably on a per-app basis). There are three levels to the Play Integrity API; MEETS\_BASIC\_INTEGRITY, MEETS\_DEVICE\_INTEGRITY, and MEETS\_STRONG\_INTEGRITY. Apps which check for the basic level will work just fine on GrapheneOS since it passes the check. For the other two GrapheneOS cannot pass without the blessing of Google. What the app being blocked looks like in practice depends a lot on their implementation. This is why the option to block requests altogether is going to be implemented since some apps may ignore the Play Integrity API if it cannot be reached. > [@anon24991200](#): > > so they don’t ban you; it’s just that you can’t use the app These apps (including non-banking apps) almost certain won’t ban your account for using GrapheneOS, they’ll simply limit the functionality somehow, often by blocking logins. --- ## Post 7 by @anon42475305 — 2025-01-26T08:08:41Z An iPhone is the second best choice after GrapheneOS, yes. There are million different ways you could use such a combination on devices so I can’t make a specific recommendation. That being said sensitive communications on the GrapheneOS device and less sensitive stuff like KYC banking on the iPhone is probably a sensible solution. --- ## Post 8 by @anon32558482 — 2025-01-26T11:22:55Z > [@anon42475305](#): > > It’s been given the release number 2025012600, so it should come today. The update coming out today has to go through the Alpha and Beta channels before phones set to Stable get updated. It’s unlikely any phone set to the Stable channel will be updated today. I usually get my update a day or two after release. --- ## Post 9 by @anon39279085 — 2025-01-26T11:44:24Z correct. I’ve heard it is safe to opt into the beta if you would like but yeah. --- ## Post 10 by @anon42475305 — 2025-01-26T11:49:36Z I know but since all releases are production releases I tend to switch to Alpha whenever their aren’t any changes with a serious potential for breakage. --- ## Post 11 by @PixelatedWizard — 2025-01-26T14:17:42Z Revolut and other currently not working apps will likely [start working on GrapheneOS very soon.](https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/113887440411374520) --- ## Post 12 by @anon5410820 — 2025-02-04T09:20:44Z Okay one weird thing, I’m testing a bangking app for my boyfriend. The app is called “KrungThai Next” and it didn’t work despite not using Play Integrity (or at least I wasn’t notified) and I’ve already updated, so I should have the patch to make Revolut work. Idk what’s going on, but I just thought it’s worth typing it out --- ## Post 13 by @anon39279085 — 2025-02-04T09:23:49Z I have the patch for the revolut working, To check for yourself do you have the January 5 2025 security patch or rather build: 2025020200 --- ## Post 14 by @anon5410820 — 2025-02-04T09:26:51Z > [@anon39279085](#): > > 2025020200 Yup! --- ## Post 15 by @anon39279085 — 2025-02-04T09:28:09Z then confirmed that you do. Btw not all apps request the play intergrity so may be something else? --- ## Post 16 by @anon5410820 — 2025-02-04T09:29:27Z > [@anon39279085](#): > > so may be something else? Yeah, I’m so confused on how they detected it? I mean I know a few apps that use Play integrity and those ones will notify me, this one doesn’t but it still doesn’t work --- ## Post 17 by @anon39279085 — 2025-02-04T09:32:46Z Hmm I would say contact them under the banners of how they take security of devices into account. If they aren’t very cooperative or something, Maybe I would suspect it’s something like what was recently discovered with revolut? > **[GrapheneOS (@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social)](https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/113869402100735005)** > > Revolut is specifically banning GrapheneOS by checking for the build machine hostname and username being set to grapheneos. We've changed these to build-host and build-user. Combined with another change, this allow our users to log in to it again...