# What messenger you use for people who won't use privacy-preserving apps like Signal or SimpleX?

**URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/what-messenger-you-use-for-people-who-wont-use-privacy-preserving-apps-like-signal-or-simplex/40664
**Category:** General
**Created:** 2026-09-12T13:33:34Z
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## Post 3 by @TheDoc — 2026-09-13T13:04:39Z

> [@How bad is Telegram when using only secret chats?](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/how-bad-is-telegram-when-using-only-secret-chats/40156/6):
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> If you meet someone using iMessage or Google Messages, I’d consider encrypted RCS via Google Messages. Otherwise the next best “mainstream” options are between WhatsApp and Telegram. [WhatsApp’s E2EE has issues](https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/10/where-whatsapp-went-wrong-effs-four-biggest-security-concerns) but [Telegram’s E2EE is still pretty bad](https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/messengers.html#telegram) in comparison. However, [Telegram](https://privacyspy.org/product/telegram/) seems to have a better privacy policy than [WhatsApp](https://privacyspy.org/product/whatsapp/). If you’re more concerned with protecting the contents of your messages, I’d prefer encrypted RCS \> WhatsApp \> Telegram. If you’re more concerned about hiding your …

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