Hiya, So I have heard that the new CEO of Mozilla has said they will be incorporating more AI. I saw someone recommend “Waterfox” as a potential Firefox alternative to switch to, but I am concerned about updates. Does anyone here know how fast Waterfox gets the patches and updates from Firefox? Is …

[image] Waterfox hammer_and_wrenchTool Suggestions Website Short description Waterfox is a free and open-source web browser and fork of Firefox. It claims to be ethical and user-centric, emphasizing performance and privacy. Why I think this tool should be ad…

Waterfox is based on Firefox ESR which means it’ll probably receive less updates. I’m not gonna tell you what to do, but I’d say weigh your options.

[image] CTRLexe: Waterfox is based on Firefox ESR To be fair so is Mullvad Browser. :upside_down_face:

There’s a ton of old threads on PG about this very question that I guess you didn’t look up. What’s so interesting about Waterfox? Librewolf seems like the better fork if that’s your vibe.

Yes, I didn’t look at other threads. Partially bc I didn’t have a ton of time when I wrote the post and just quickly typed it out, partially bc I don’t trust older threads to have current information. I don’t know a lot about Firefox forks, I’m someone who cares about privacy but I don’t know a lot…

Librewolf is more stripped down and generally regarded as the more privacy-friendly option on here. It arguably has its issue if you want to read the long Librewolf thread, but many think it should be officially recommended by PG. I recommend just looking at the main PG site recommendations and goin…

Yes, but their anti-fingerprinting feature hugely outweighs the issues of ESR. Waterfox doesn’t offer enough as an ESR build to use over Firefox.

I would recommend you look into Arkenfox so that you don’t have to be dependent on other developers to fork Firefox and you can de-Mozilla Firefox yourself. It is a technical set-up and for those who find Arkenfox too advanced, Firefox forks is the next best option. It depends if you intend to use …

Besides PWAs I 100% work in LibreWolf. It’s more hardened than Brave, but not so much like Mullvad. So it is a really good middle ground for daily use.

I cannot speak officially for LibreWolf since I am not part of the official maintainers. However, I have been fairly involved recently (most commits for the past two releases have been from me). If you don’t mind that some things are not optimal, you can use it. I have started discussions/pushed for…

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