# Using Monero to buy prepaid card for buying subscription service

**URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/using-monero-to-buy-prepaid-card-for-buying-subscription-service/27019
**Category:** Questions
**Created:** 2025-04-24T23:44:12Z
**Posts:** 25

## Post 1 by @chive — 2025-04-24T23:44:12Z

Hey i would like to know your experience guys by using the following method : Monero \> prepaid card \> paying online services

I wonder if it work with bitwarden, proton unlimited is anyone have tried this before ?

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## Post 2 by @jerm — 2025-04-25T08:00:24Z

[https://trocador.app/en/prepaidcards/](https://trocador.app/en/prepaidcards/) great customer support

> I wonder if it work with bitwarden, proton unlimited is anyone have tried this before ?

Depends if they accept prepaid cards, always check first.

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## Post 3 by @ihateKYC — 2025-04-26T03:30:50Z

You won’t be able to use a VPN to activate the cards on trocador, cakepay, etc.

I believe [stealths.net](http://stealths.net) let’s you use a vpn. Just make a fresh protonmail when they ask for email don’t use some temp mail.

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## Post 4 by @chive — 2025-04-27T22:08:53Z

I’m confuse you said stealth can allow me to use vpn but on their website they said “vpn is not allowed to redemption”

And what happen if i do not use a VPN for activate the card ? Sorry for asking so many questions i’ve never use a prepaid card before. I just need to understand what i’m doing.

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## Post 5 by @PurpleDime — 2025-04-28T00:24:41Z

> [@jerm](#):
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> Depends if they accept prepaid cards, always check first.

Indeed. I don’t know about **BitWarden** , but AFAIK, except for **Simple Login** , **Proton** does not have prepaid cards. If your goal is to purchase anonymously, [**Proton does accept cash**](https://proton.me/support/payment-options#cash).

IMHO, Proton’s cash payments are not completely anonymous because you are paying them directly. Your payment requires that you reveal your Proton username, which makes sense, otherwise they won’t know to who they should attribute the credit.

However, it can potentially reveal your location, if you are sending the cash from your country of residence. And it can potentially reveal your real name, if you decide to do so, but you don’t have to.

This is why Proton should not only offer gift cards, but make them available on [**the Proxy Store**](https://digitalgoods.proxysto.re/en/). **The Proxy Store** is an independent third party, that sells gift cards for various privacy services such as **Simple Login** , **Addy** , and **Tuta**.

Because they serve as middle man between you and the service you want to purchase from, your identity is never revealed to said service. I have used the **Proxy Store** to purchase from **Tuta** & **Addy** , and have always used a fake name.

**The Proxy Store** accepts **Monero** and cash. One of their advantages is that the gift card you purchase from them don’t have to be credited to your account for the service you are purchasing from (e.g.: **Tuta** ). You can gift them. However, once you purchase them, they have to be used within 30 days otherwise they expire.

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## Post 6 by @PurpleDime — 2025-04-28T00:30:37Z

> [@jerm](#):
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> [https://trocador.app/en/prepaidcards/](https://trocador.app/en/prepaidcards/) great customer support

What services did you purchase with Trocador’s cards? IMO, they should list the various services that work with their cards. Especially the onces from privacy companies like **Proton** , **Tuta** , etc…

Moreover, it is my understanding that **Monero** is the only anonymous cryptocurrency. Yet **Trocador** accepts a bunch of them. If that is going to be the case, why not accept fiat via regular credit/debit cards or even bank transfer?

I find it so hard to purchase cryptocurrencies when you’re a newbie. I want to buy a small amount of **Monero** ( **$10-$20** ) with no KYC, but it’s proving to be quite difficult.

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## Post 7 by @chive — 2025-04-28T01:10:36Z

> [@PurpleDime](#):
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> IMHO, Proton’s cash payments are not completely anonymous because you are paying them directly. Your payment requires that you reveal your Proton username, which makes sense, otherwise they won’t know to who they should attribute the credit.
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> However, it can potentially reveal your location, if you are sending the cash from your country of residence. And it can potentially reveal your real name, if you decide to do so, but you don’t have to.

That’s why i want to avoid using cash and by the way the money can be stolen by someone.

> [@PurpleDime](#):
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> This is why Proton should not only offer gift cards, but make them available on [**the Proxy Store**](https://digitalgoods.proxysto.re/en/). **The Proxy Store** is an independent third party, that self gift card for various privacy services such as **Simple Login** , **Addy** , and **Tuta**.

I already know about Proxy Store but they do not solve my problem. I want to buy Proton by using a prepaid card.

> [@PurpleDime](#):
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> I find it so hard to purchase cryptocurrencies when you’re a newbie. I want to buy a small amount of **Monero** ( **$10-$20** ) with no KYC, but it’s proving to be quite difficult.

You can actually buy monero easily without KYC here [https://openmonero.com/](https://openmonero.com/)

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## Post 8 by @PurpleDime — 2025-04-28T01:23:04Z

> [@chive](#):
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> That’s why i want to avoid using cash and by the way the money can be stolen by someone.

I’d be more afraid of my mail being lost than stolen. This is why it’s highly recommended to send the cash via registered mail, that way you can track it. That’s what I do. The cash in the envelope with a letter, and I never disclose to the post office or courier service that there is cash in my mail. The largest amount I’ve ever sent in one letter is 40 euros.

> [@chive](#):
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> I already know about Proxy Store, but they do not solve my problem. I want to buy Proton by using a prepaid card.

As far as Proton is concerned, that is currently not possible. It will only become possible when Proton starts offering gift cards.

> [@chive](#):
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> You can actually buy monero easily without KYC here [https://openmonero.com/](https://openmonero.com/)

Thanks for that recommendation. I hope I able to buy small amount of Monero (e.g.: **$20** ) with cash or bank transfer.

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## Post 9 by @chive — 2025-04-28T01:35:23Z

> [@PurpleDime](#):
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> As far as Proton is concerned, that is currently not possible. It will only become possible when Proton starts offering gift cards.

I saw a guy on reddit who said it’s possible to pay proton product with prepaid card here [https://redlib.baczek.me/r/ProtonVPN/comments/13cfpu9/paying\_with\_prepaid\_visa\_debit\_vanilla\_gift\_card/](https://redlib.baczek.me/r/ProtonVPN/comments/13cfpu9/paying_with_prepaid_visa_debit_vanilla_gift_card/)

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## Post 11 by @PurpleDime — 2025-04-28T01:47:25Z

> [@chive](#):
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> ![](https://forum-cdn.privacyguides.net/user_avatar/discuss.privacyguides.net/purpledime/48/4885_2.png) PurpleDime:
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> > As far as Proton is concerned, that is currently not possible. It will only become possible when Proton starts offering gift cards.
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> I saw a guy on reddit who said it’s possible to pay proton product with prepaid card here [Paying with prepaid Visa debit vanilla gift card possible? - r/ProtonVPN](https://redlib.baczek.me/r/ProtonVPN/comments/13cfpu9/paying_with_prepaid_visa_debit_vanilla_gift_card/)

I have no doubt that a some virtual cards work with Proton. Especially those provided by banks. But it’s completely irrelevant to my statement, which is that Proton does not sell gift cards. You can’t buy something that doesn’t exist. It’s like saying you want to buy a car from Proton. Proton doesn’t sell cars.

**PS:** I did not know about **Red Lib** as a front end for Reddit. Looks cool. Thanks!

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## Post 12 by @anon88979181 — 2025-04-28T01:49:39Z

Proton does sell gift cards.

> **[How to redeem or give Proton gift cards | Proton](https://proton.me/gift-card)**
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> Use your Proton account credits for encrypted email, file storage, VPN, and calendar, enabling secure and private access to the internet.

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## Post 13 by @chive — 2025-04-28T01:59:47Z

So sad they do not use proxystore to sell those cards :confused: it would make our life more easier

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## Post 14 by @anon88979181 — 2025-04-28T02:04:25Z

@Proton_Team

Please consider being on ProxyStore too. I would like to have that as an option too.

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## Post 15 by @PurpleDime — 2025-04-28T08:25:31Z

Color me corrected! This is fantastic! Since when has this been the case, and **why is not mentioned in [Proton’s payment options page](https://proton.me/support/payment-options) that I shared earlier?**

I also find it find 2 things super weird. On Proton’s payment options page, you can purchase a Proton subscription directly via cash and Bitcoin, which is only cryptocurrency Proton accept.

However, for purchasing Proton gift cards, **cash is NOT an option**. And they accepted other cryptocurrencies than Bitcoin, but **NOT Monero**.

So basically, **you cannot purchase a Proton gift card anonymously. Every gift card purchase is linked to an identity.**

That is unacceptable. It also makes no sense. **Why can I buy a Proton subscription anonymously when it’s direct, but I can’t buy one anonymously when it’s indirect?**

Another weird thing is that neither **Simple Login** ’s or **Standard Notes** ’s logo appear on the Gift Card image. That would suggest that **Proton** gift cards are not accepted for these services. My guess is, since **Proton Pass** and **SL** are now the same product, **Proton** gift cards are accepted if your subscription is managed via **Proton Pass** but not via **SL**.

I will definitely escalate this to **Proton Support**.

> [@chive](#):
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> So sad they do not use proxystore to sell those cards :confused: it would make our life more easier

It’s not just sad it’s deliberate and extremely disappointing. We should definitely petition for **Proton** to make their giftcards available on the **Proxy Store**. It’s already the case for **Simple Login** which is a **Proton** company.

I will be extremely disappointed if **Proton** ever removes **SL** gifcards from the **Proxy Store** because their availability predates **Proton** ’s purchasing of them.

**The Proxy Store** is an amazing champion for privacy. First because they are independent of all the privacy companies for which they offer gift cards. Secondly, they offer privacy by creating distance between you and the privacy services you purchase.

Third, they accept anonymous payments via cash and **Monero**. And lastly, they create strength in numbers when gift cards from various popular companies are made available through them. It promotes privacy to the public as legitimate rather than appear shady to those who don’t are against it.

**Proton** does not accept **Monero** precisely because they fear coming across as shady, but if they made their gift cards available on the **Proxy Store** , they wouldn’t have to worry about that. Plus, they already have one foot in the door with **SL** , so they might as well completely step in.

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## Post 16 by @PurpleDime — 2025-04-28T08:44:45Z

> [@PurpleDime](#):
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> ![](https://forum-cdn.privacyguides.net/user_avatar/discuss.privacyguides.net/chive/48/15_2.png) chive:
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> > You can actually buy monero easily without KYC here [https://openmonero.com/](https://openmonero.com/)
> 
> Thanks for that recommendation. I hope I able to buy small amount of Monero (e.g.: **$20** ) with cash or bank transfer.

Ok. I see that it there are people on **Open Monero** who accept cash for lower amounts such as **€25** , which is fantastic.

**1) Have you ever used them before? If yes, what is your experience?**  
**2) Also, how much time do you typically have to make the payment as a buyer?**

I ask this because if I am not in the country of the seller, it may take up to a week.

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## Post 17 by @jerm — 2025-04-28T11:34:12Z

> [@chive](#):
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> You can actually buy monero easily without KYC here [https://openmonero.com/](https://openmonero.com/)

This is a shady service please don’t recommend it. [openmonero.co : Monero](https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1i3pmyh/openmoneroco/)

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## Post 18 by @jerm — 2025-04-28T11:37:41Z

> [@PurpleDime](#):
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> What services did you purchase with Trocador’s cards? IMO, they should list the various services that work with their cards. Especially the onces from privacy companies like **Proton** , **Tuta** , etc…

They act as a proxy to buy prepaid cards supported, read [https://trocador.app/en/prepaidcards/](https://trocador.app/en/prepaidcards/)

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## Post 19 by @chive — 2025-04-28T12:07:51Z

> [@PurpleDime](#):
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> **1) Have you ever used them before? If yes, what is your experience?**  
> **2) Also, how much time do you typically have to make the payment as a buyer?**

1. I’ve never use cash to buy Monero on the site i recommend you to use Gift Card payment if you want to stay anonymous. But if you want only to use cash then trade with someone on the site with good feedback and good reputation. For example someone like jmcabc2008 on the site.

2. If you use cash the seller need to wait to receive the money to send you the monero. But for other payments (online) both of you have one hour to make the trade after that the trade will be closed. In general every trade i’ve made has take less than 2 minutes by using a online payment.

> [@jerm](#):
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> This is a shady service please don’t recommend it. [openmonero.co : Monero](https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1i3pmyh/openmoneroco/)

I wonder if you read the comments of the link you sent… everyone in the post are saying this is safe. Most of traders on the site is from localmonero don’t spread FUD. I’ve been trading with jmcabc2008 in the past for example on localmonero and i’ve never had any issue.

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## Post 20 by @jerm — 2025-04-28T13:11:16Z

You clearly don’t know about the well known scammer called kewbit, he runs shit like haveno[.[ com (etc you can see a comment on reddit link I shared. The website is poorely created, just like his other scams and do you even know who is behind it? It is probably kewbit.

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## Post 21 by @PurpleDime — 2025-04-28T14:21:44Z

I didn’t know gift cards were an option as a payment. Is that what you used? Also, what kind of gift cards, Amazon gift cards?

@jerm I take PG’s advice very seriously. Especially when it’s in an area I have little to no knowledge. I’m aware that they only recommend a handful of places to buy **Monero** , and **Open Monero** is not one of them. I appreciate you warning me. This is one of the reason I want my first time purchase to be a very low amount, so that if anything goes wrong, the loss is minimal.

I will investigate **Open Monero** further before I make a decision.

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## Post 22 by @ihateKYC — 2025-04-28T22:05:12Z

Oh some options say that but two don’t. I will test it out and reply with results I get.

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## Post 23 by @chive — 2025-04-29T14:49:35Z

Ok then what’s the alternatives ? If haveno and openmonero is full scam where you buy your monero without KYC ? I’d like to hear that. And do someone scam you on openmonero and haveno ? What is ur experience ??

> [@PurpleDime](#):
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> I didn’t know gift cards were an option as a payment. Is that what you used? Also, what kind of gift cards, Amazon gift cards?

In the past i bought a Amazon gift card in a store in my city with cash to trade on localmonero then you have to find a seller who accept those cards. But before buying anything find a seller who accept gift card and which one.

> [@PurpleDime](#):
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> I will investigate **Open Monero** further before I make a decision

I’d like he show some real proof instead of sending a random reddit post. In my opnion he just trying to spread FUD and that’s all. If Open Monero was a bad site people would talk about that on [https://redlib.baczek.me/r/Monero](https://redlib.baczek.me/r/Monero)

> [@ihateKYC](#):
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> Oh some options say that but two don’t. I will test it out and reply with results I get.

Thanks you very much i’m waiting for your feedback :slight_smile:

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## Post 24 by @chive — 2025-05-01T01:45:56Z

So.. no one has used monero to buy prepaid card on the forum ? :sweat_smile:

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## Post 25 by @jerm — 2025-05-01T07:09:59Z

Who said Haveno is a scam? it is just some guy that is squatting a lot of Monero related domains trying to scam people. [https://haveno.exchange/](https://haveno.exchange/) is legit so is [https://retoswap.com/](https://retoswap.com/).

You can read more about Kewbit scammer [here](https://librejo.monerodevs.org/SyntheticBird/kewbit-drama). Stop calling people spreading FUD if you don’t know anything.
