# UP Phone - A new Android-based privacy phone?

**URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/up-phone-a-new-android-based-privacy-phone/14358
**Category:** Questions
**Created:** 2023-10-09T16:27:03Z
**Posts:** 17
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## Post 3 by @anon63378630 — 2023-10-09T16:48:07Z

Big no for a litany of reasons.

Their Anti-Virus is a GPL violating fork of my Hypatia and they even still download databases from my server: [VirusTotal](https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/a461f8194554fd92d83a1aff20fa48f730a99e7679e1f1bbfc6935e1b049aafb/details)

See also the questionable apps they have: [list of apps on the unplugged "app store" returned from /api/store/app?size=10000 · GitHub](https://gist.github.com/aemmitt-ns/ad3f1d3ff34c36c0206fe6216fd56e19)

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