U.K. orders Apple to let it spy on users’ encrypted accounts

Prob. changing account country or region would enable users to “keep” or disable-and-re-enable" their ADP?

My question is about what the guidance and the data migration actually entails for UK users.

Changing the account region would be difficult since it requires a foreign address and/or payment method.

^^^It might be good for expats or visitors perhaps?

If payment method is required I think it is not too difficult? Services like Wise / Privacy.com, etc. should do the trick.

Btw, Apple’s Support Page /Apple Platform Security Page and Newsroom has nothing about the change, sneaky B"$T"RD.

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Would them?

Has cryptolib-swift been audited yet?
Because Cryptomator is Brexitville’s only hope right now.

Yes the “turn on ADP” button is greyed out. I wonder if any countries besides China and the UK are affected? Russia maybe? idk

Disclaimer: I for one welcome Sir Keir Starmer and how his glorious regime is protecting us from ourselves and making sure all the people with bad thoughts have nowhere to hide. Political dissent is NOT okay. Any comments I have made in the past criticising the UK government and/or its protected classes were purely satire. Also long live the King. Also I have never pirated in my life. chuckles nervously

Basically all Apple users in UK are backdoored. Don’t buy Apple products which are closed source and can fuck you over any time they want.

I really have to :person_facepalming: hard over that statement.
THIS IS NOT APPLE’S FAULT, THIS IS ON THE UK GOVERNMENT.
Be angry at THEM, even better: vote for a different party next time.

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Apple didn’t backdoor anything, they just had to pull a feature because of an authoritarian government.

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Explain what happens to users that had this feature enabled. Also to the sheer amount of people that still think Apple is protecting their data by using the unencrypted iCloud backup while majority of other countries have their data E2EE except UK.

For now my guess is it keeps working

Would need people living under similar regimes such as Iran, Myanmar Georgia, DPRK, Belarus, Venezuela, Mali, Niger, etc. to test out.

Heil Starmer!

But Wait, the law had been passed in 2016 and multiple NGOs warned at that time, saying the law would be abused, and it was under Tory government. Let’s have a good look at WHO voted in favour of that bill. :blush:

Nonetheless, Apple’s reaction on this issue is also disappointing, like what I linked in my post above, you see NO traces of fighting back.

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Existing users’ access will be disabled at a later date.

So going off that it seems they’ll eventually just not be able to access their backups?

Apple could’ve pulled out of the UK.

I don’t blame them for not doing so, but it should be clear that Apple is only a fair-weather privacy advocate. It is just not important to them in the same way that it is to us, and we should call them out for that.

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Honestly, even the threat of Apple pulling out of the UK market would have caused significant public backlash similar to the whole TikTok ban debacle.

I’m disappointed that Apple didn’t engage in a long drawn out legal fight against it.

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Well we don’t (and can’t) know what is happening behind the scenes. Apple is undoubtedly appealing but they are still legally required to implement a backdoor for all users globally by an unknown date.

Honestly it boggles the mind that a country claiming to be democratic can have laws like this where the voters have no right to any transparency with regards to what the government is forcing companies to do. How are you possibly supposed to cast an informed vote?

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They could have, but that would have been an extreme measure with yet-to-be-known repercussions.

Shareholders would not have been happy about that.

Dare I say most UK Apple device owners are not on-board with this fight either. They would just be pissed off that their expensive devices are not working anymore …

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If user expects A encryption, and product does not do A encryption intentionally or stops doing A encryption intentionally, without responsibly disclosing it to users to allow them a choice, it is a backdoor. No need to defend a multi billion dollar corporation.

A backdoor is a typically covert method of bypassing normal authentication or encryption in a computer, product, embedded device (e.g. a home router), or its embodiment (e.g. part of a cryptosystem, algorithm, chipset, or even a “homunculus computer”—a tiny computer-within-a-computer such as that found in Intel’s AMT technology). Backdoors are most often used for securing remote access to a computer, or obtaining access to plaintext in cryptosystems.

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Yeah, Apple had to make a tough choice. They chose the easy way out.

I’m saying if Apple cared about privacy as a top priority they would’ve told their shareholders that the value of universal privacy is more than the UK market (which I believe), and they would’ve told their UK customers that they cannot offer a service like iCloud at all if they can’t do it in a private way.

There’s no doubt in my mind that UK customers and shareholders would be mad about it. That doesn’t mean it’s not the only correct decision. You gotta do the hard thing sometimes if you have any principles.

Even PornHub knows how this works lol

At the end of the day it is just further proof that privacy is not and has never been Apple’s top priority. You can still use Apple products privately, just don’t pretend that it’s possible because Apple actually cares about privacy. It’s just convenient for them.

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