# Thoughts on iCloud with Advanced Data Protection?

**URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/thoughts-on-icloud-with-advanced-data-protection/12463
**Category:** Questions
**Created:** 2023-04-24T11:08:37Z
**Posts:** 6
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## Post 2 by @jonah — 2023-04-24T15:31:25Z

Google has end-to-end encryption for some major services, but that’s beside the point I think. I don’t foresee iCloud Advanced Data Protection being worth recommending on Privacy Guides as a standalone tool we point to and say “use this for privacy,” although if you already use iCloud I’d certainly encourage enabling it.

I discussed it further here when it launched:

> [@Apple advances user security with powerful new data protections](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/apple-advances-user-security-with-powerful-new-data-protections/10778/4):
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> Lots of important gotchas here. Don’t get me wrong, this is great, but there are definitely drawbacks to be aware of. The main one being their use of [convergent encryption](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_encryption) for file deduplication: Some metadata and usage information stored in iCloud remains under standard data protection, even when Advanced Data Protection is enabled. For example, dates and times when a file or object was modified are used to sort your information, and checksums of file and photo data are used to help Apple de-…

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