About time! Now we can finally stop crime!
Hmm, I understand that a âfree internetâ (heavy quotation marks) comes with the risk of harmful content to children. But at what point can a government ensure that the âchildren are safeâ?
Assuming this goes ahead, and itâs wildly ineffective. Whatâs next? Cameras in every home to make sure children arenât abused? That would surely reduce child abuse. Itâs for the children!
Wouldnât it be more effective to look at why pornography has such a death-grip on society? Instead of just taking us through another prohibition era.
Maybe we need to just go back to the family PC in the living room, and not allow 24/7 access to additive or harmful content on a tiny device. Itâs not that kids cannot be trusted, but pornography and social media are designed to be extremely addictive, especially in younger teens.
Anyway, this is obviously bad. I sympathise with the concerns though, but trading privacy for âsafetyâ is a never ending road.
A part of me wants to put on my 
Joker mask and watch the world burn, because seriously, how stupid is this? If this law passes, itâs because of stupidity, and what does stupidity deserve but ridicule?
But thatâs only with the Joker mask on⌠Putting on my 
Batman mask, I must ask what stupidity needs. Stupidity needs help, so yes, I will sign the petition.
What unfortunate times for people to be living in.
Foolishness abound
Thereâs an obvious encroachment on a citizens right to privacy - Iâm sure building a backdoor into your phone along with a program that scans its entire contents in perpetuity could never be used by any bad actor for untoward purposes
Edited: I misunderstood the stated goal of this software to be the detection of CSAM, but itâs just intended to be a broad nudity filter (to prevent kids from seeing boobies)
After the nudity detection has been confirmed to work, Iâm sure the next step will be scanning (and reporting) of political symbols that the government deems âextremistâ for whatever reason. Next, it will might be unapproved memes.
This. Just another reason to drop the smart phone.
everyone should just switch to grapheneos âŚ
Theyâre already putting cameras in cars to try and tell if youâre drunk or something, wouldnât put it past them.
And then what happens Graphene has enough users that they decide to try to regulate it?
IMO âjust switchâ is a very short-sighted solution. It only works while these platforms are so niche that the government doesnât bother trying to address it. Once you get 25%+ of the population using it, the government will just refocus their efforts, and yes GOS likely wonât comply but that just means the government will make GOS illegal in that country.
They donât have to. Google (or Motorolla) can easily make changes that would do this. And whats more they wouldnât have to go through any democratic process.
That said, if you were gov and you had a GOS backdoor (or similar), would you publish it and get everyone to stop using GOS or would you use it as a honey pot? All these people with a false sense of security now using their secret phones âanonymouslyâ. Seems a bit of a big gov / LE goldmine if you ask me. I would want to keep that grift for as long as I could milk it for.
This is like having an ant problem and deciding to burn your house down to solve it. Itâs like they are asking for Microsoft Recall but then expecting the OS and every application to know how to handle hiding an image. Those in Parliament have no idea how tech works, or they do and want mass surveillance.
Literally why arenât we thinking of basic parental controls, sending some header like âno adult contentâ, and sites can filter that out. Idk, seems like there are simpler things to try first.
Well itâs open source ⌠and open source software tends to be way harder to regulate than some closed source one, as ppl can just make their own forks of it etc.
Is this genuinely everything you look at though? Last I saw it was related to things like messaging and the camera roll?
Iâve done the iOS verification anyway as Apple already had what they wanted from me to do it (credit card) so from what I understand that also exempts you from it. Not that itâs good, but still.
Actual always-on monitoring would be a lot more troubling. Not least because you get situations like Discord when it thought grids were CSAM. Or maybe it sees someone young looking and gets the wrong idea and you get your life ruined for no reason. Or maybe you go on Twitter (if youâre lacking sense) and someone posts something that is illegal and you didnât even want to see it? Iâve heard what that Grok thing is like. Seems very unwise.
They just bully people into shutting down stuff they donât like. Samurai wallet is the perfect example.
Wasnât that the whole big deal with the age verification laws in California and Colorado was they included FOSS and now they donât? The government is clearly capable of regulating it, and sure you can always get around it but that doesnât mean you wonât get in trouble for it. I canât take weed from California to Texas and then go âbut it was legal in California.â Iâm in Texas and itâs not legal here, so Iâm still in trouble. You can sit here and go âbut my LInux distro was made in [place without age verification].â Congratulations, you live in [place with age verification] so youâre breaking the law.
I am neither a parent nor a politician, but I think I would rather my child not see violence than nudity.
And I think itâs parents job to educate their kids on this topic and to use tools that block their kids access to nudity if they decided to go this path, not the governmentâs.