# Telegram Says It Will Provide User Data to Authorities

**URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/telegram-says-it-will-provide-user-data-to-authorities/21078
**Category:** General
**Created:** 2024-09-23T16:37:18Z
**Posts:** 54
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## Post 46 by @jerm — 2024-10-01T16:43:45Z

> [@Anon47486929](#):
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> Also your point about SGX and then comparing it to server transparency and other initiatives is insane. You are effectively saying no security (server transparency) is better than low security (signal infra).

Using SGX gives a false sense of security, you clearly didn’t read the post. I will refrain from continuing this discussion as you don’t have any constructive discussion skills, resorting to ad hominem attacks and jumping to other arguments that is completely irrelevant like Email when I just proved your that your point is wrong lmao. If you have a better solution other than saying SimpleX Chat will never succeed for some ““reasons”” then enlighten us, because Signal will probably [not survive that long](https://signal.org/blog/signal-is-expensive/) thanks for their centralized nature. There’s a reason Email and XMPP still exist today, even IRC but not centralized messaging apps when they are not making enough profit off user data.

I already shared some of Signal’s problems [According to Elon Musk, Signal has "known vulnerabilities that are not being addressed" - #14 by jerm](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/according-to-elon-musk-signal-has-known-vulnerabilities-that-are-not-being-addressed/18206/14) not to mention their insecure Multi-device support algorithm, which SimpleX Chat refuses to copy, because it doesn’t meet their app’s security standards. My post shows how Signal doesn’t not care at all about end point security and consider it out of their scope.

No point in arguing with Signal stans.

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