Recently saw an ad for this new service: https://bmail.ag It has some…interesting domain choices.
It looks like this is the same company that offers VP.net, and this the person behind it which is somewhat a strange story: Andrew Lee (entrepreneur) - Wikipedia
I hadn’t heard of the Joseon Cybernation before now.
looks like just another meme email for the cock.li type crowd.
It does seem to be a more real company with substantial players behind it which I was surprised by, you can see more here: vp.net
But I see also that they store your IP address which isn’t great for a privacy oriented provider. Does seem like they are trying to cater to the meme crowd. I do like to take note of fully e2ee email providers as there aren’t a lot, and Astermail recently was called out for some poor code.
But I see also that they store your IP address which isn’t great for a privacy oriented provider.
if you are at the point where knowing your IP address can expose you, just use a vpn or tor. do not expect a service to cover all your opsec mistakes.
regardless, on their website they claim to not store your ip - - “Your IP never reaches
our backend or our staff”.
honestly, from first glance seems like a good product with a nice team behind it. i also checked out vp.net and was pleasantly surprised.
I was very interested in the idea of using “SGX enclave” for e-mail sending. I have no idea how much I trust this specific provider, but I always saw this as a very weak link of the encrypted e-mail:
If I delegate e-mail sending to Proton or Tuta, they could hypothetically intercept it under judicial order. Yet, If I host my own e-mail at home, I’d get deliverability issues.
So at least great point for them to trying to address this.
Thanks for this. I look forward to testing it out. I love that there is more competition in the private email space. It’s a good thing. I’m not gonna lie, even when there is a new non-E2EE email service, but it doesn’t require a phone number or a verification email, I get excited. I guess it speaks to how depressed I am about surveillance capitalism.
Website looks like it is AI-generated. I’d stay away based on that alone since that’s a likely sign of a scam.
I thought so too but it’s part of the parent company VP.net which is an established VPN company. Whether you should trust the parent company and the owner is a different matter but it’s not quite a random site like some of the other email providers that use meme domain names.
Update, I was unable to sign up for an account, leaving me with a poor impression. It looked like it signed me up but was having various errors upon sign in. May try again after the service is more established but bad first impression.
works as expected for me. I just made a free account within 45 seconds on a vpn, logged in, and sent & received emails from my tutanota account no problem.
I sat for 10 minutes trying to figure out what the issue was with the domain until i went to the sight 
. Best i could get was bmail was a rip off of gmail until i looked lol
encrypted or plain text?
plain text, don’t believe they support e2ee between providers, only within
This is why I asked. There is an option to publish a pgp key and I hoped it would work with my normal email that has a published pgp key but it won’t have it
they support pgp, its in the encryption settings
yep, but it doesnt seem to work for me so i was just curious if it was working for the poster above
I don’t use pgp for email, sorry if you misunderstood above
They are definitely missing many features that I really need for it to become a candidate for me to switch to for all my mail, however it seems to be a very new email provider. Anyways, I will be testing this provider for the next while and see how I like it. Asked some questions related to their vpn & email to support for some clarification I needed, they are very pleasant to talk to.
If their claims about their systems, process, etc are true, this solves one of the bigger issues, in my opinion, with the current privacy providers (proton, tutanota): they first see the raw email, run spam detection, then encrypt it (assuming from 3rd party).
I totally agree and have set it up for myself (Epstein) and my missus (maxwell), because, well you know
It’s obviously vibe-coded, so the chance that it’s secure is vanishingly small. Don’t use Bmail.