Does PG have a position on how to best create a private Apple/Google account?
I donât know about apple.
But for google, if you donât have old account (before sms was needed) itâs not that hard to skip it even on Android phone.
Is it confirmed that people can still create a new Google account on an Android without a phone number? If we can go through that, can we then set up 2FA with something like a Yubikey?
I guess I meant itâs a reasonable price for someone who doesnât own a smart phone and still needs to receive 2FA SMS texts. I donât like using cell phones because, even if you are using an anonymous burner SIM, the IMEI # of the phone gives up your location, allowing you to be triangulated to about 300 feet - this is the case even if you have no SIM at all in the phone. Phones with no SIM can still call 911 and be reverse located to a radius of about 300 feet in an urban area.
@SMSPool just noticed we could summon you about the Google verification issue 
do you see any solutions in sight to SEND an SMS for the verification?
We arenât actively working on a solution at the moment, however this issue is becoming slightly more common.
We suggest using a fresh browser session and a fresh residential IP address that matches the countryâs numbers. This can sometimes bypass this and allows you to send an SMS instead rather than scanning the QR code and sending an SMS.
This is why some services like ours offer long-term rental phone numbers 
I would suggest getting your own sim if price is an issue though.
May I ask what the concern with Stripe is? No card payment processor prioritises privacy & we would always recommend depositing via XMR or Cash. Itâs true we donât allow financial services to prevent abuse and potential legal issues. However, you can still pay using Monero through our TOR .onion site.
We also offer UK long-term phone numbers for $55 for 360 days which are quite reasonable if price is a concern.
I understand, thanks. Appreciate you getting back so fast!
If you can actually, really pay anonymously with XMR on Stripe using Tor, then I have no concern. Iâm just saying that from personal experience, many mainstream fintech companies like Stripe, when you connect from an onion address via Tor, let you enter all the info and then at the very last step give you an error message that âsomething went wrong, please try again laterâ every time. So if you can verify that your Stripe account doesnât do that, then I think thatâs great.
Itâs not impossible to pay with card using Stripe on the Tor Browser, but many exit nodes have poor IP scores due to abuse and simply being Tor nodes. Therefore, itâs highly unlikely to work. No payment processor will explicitly allow Tor IPs for card payments, and honestly, Iâm not sure what youâd gain from using Tor for a card payment. Your bank will already have a record of that transaction. Itâs a bit like hiding your car in the garage after everyone on the street has seen you drive it in.
As far as I know there isnât a Tor-friendly card payment processor available at the moment, weâre open to exploring a second payment processor for users who need it, though the fees would have to be reasonable or passed on to the customer. The reason card payment processors donât allow or advertise Tor support is simple. If the merchant gets a chargeback theyâve most likely already lost the case based on that alone.
If you have any recommendations, please do let us know.
FYI Stripe only supports card payments, they do not support crypto currencies.
The cellphone company donât just triangulate you, they do to all their consumers.
So, you just drop in an ocean unless they colaborate with police force, ICE or other that use an IMSI catcher, that will not allow them to identify you.
For my threat model, having a burner phone is ok in my case. I guess you may have an exterme threat model.
Iâm not sure what youâd gain from using Tor for a card payment. Your bank will already have a record of that transaction. Itâs a bit like hiding your car in the garage after everyone on the street has seen you drive it in.
Not if Iâm using a Vanilla VISA gift card. Thatâs the scenario I meant to describe.
Agreed
theres definitely too much emphasis on the recommendations instead of the criteria throughout this thread.
We have no influence over Stripe or any third party payment processor blocking TOR nodes.
There are a few sites you can try.
You can use felixmerchant.com if you want numbers without registering on the site.
Wantsms.com offers good long-term rental options and temporary numbers from different countries.