# Secure computer peripherals **URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/secure-computer-peripherals/23674 **Category:** Questions **Created:** 2025-01-02T20:03:23Z **Posts:** 6 ## Post 1 by @jerm — 2025-01-02T20:03:23Z Wired mouse is better than wireless one. Also, for headphones too. The thread below was a great answer if someone were to buy a wireless one, but what attacks target peripherals and if there are any recommended peripherals that are secure or mitigate known attacks out there. It would also be great if recommended peripherals work on Linux and QubesOS. > [@Wireless gaming mouse suggestion?](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/wireless-gaming-mouse-suggestion/20051/3): > > I can only recommend Logitech Unifying or Lightspeed devices here, both support firmware updates via fwupd and use encryption. The G305 is an excellent mouse at a great price. And has Piper/libratbag support. But you already have a Pro X which is Lightspeed and so is already an encrypted connection. you ain’t gon be gamin over bluetooth because HID is HID, an attacker could send keystrokes to open terminal and run scripts or arbitrary data to attempt kernel exploit. --- ## Post 2 by @anon73250778 — 2025-01-02T21:23:33Z It is no longer 100% true with the advent of these malicious cables: > **[I wouldn’t give this cable to my worst enemy - O.MG Cable](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPF9f-PLDPc&feature=youtu.be)** > > Level up your desk game! Check out the Secretlab Magnus Desk Pro: https://lmg.gg/kdg6fPlay Cities Skylines FREE this weekend starting today at: https://lmg.g... Wired is still generally desirable, privacy and security wise. But honestly I am using wireless mouse now (that isnt logitech). --- ## Post 3 by @ignoramous — 2025-01-02T22:36:08Z > [@jerm](#): > > Wired mouse is better than wireless one tbh, the attacks outlined (like Samy Kamkar’s on Microsoft Wireless Keyboards) require physical access (in this case, bugging a victim’s place). If that’s the case, you couldn’t even trust _wired_ peripherals, as there’s no amount of wires / software that can prevent all maliciousness. For instance, a year ago, researchers demonstrated that [accurate keyloggers can be built](https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-acoustic-attack-steals-data-from-keystrokes-with-95-percent-accuracy/) ([mirror](https://archive.vn/ULj7a)) by merely capturing acoustic vibrations (ex over mic on a victim’s phone if nearby). --- ## Post 4 by @jerm — 2025-01-03T13:14:09Z Bluetooth have always been a security mess [cve-2023-45866](https://github.com/skysafe/reblog/blob/e9ef3230e0491814f3e3b9c648ce518d444130c1/cve-2023-45866/README.md) and [cve-2024-0230](https://github.com/skysafe/reblog/blob/e9ef3230e0491814f3e3b9c648ce518d444130c1/cve-2024-0230/README.md). --- ## Post 5 by @anon73250778 — 2025-01-03T13:33:18Z At the very least, Bluetooth has the chance of being patched via firmware or software security update. And people are actively prodding it for weakness. --- ## Post 6 by @jerm — 2025-01-03T19:57:09Z Yeah, but you got like thousands of different mice brands and not all of them have a Product Security Incidence Response Team. Most of these random brands probably have connection unencrypted. So, better just use wired without all of the _hassle_ wireless comes with. > > > Secure bluetooth requires manufacturers to get the cryptography right. Even big brands like Logitech have gotten that wrong in recent memory, allowing attackers both to decrypt what you type [1] and to inject keystrokes [2]. And these are long-lived devices, even if vulnerabilities get patched in newer devices there are still plenty of 5 year old or older mice and keyboards with outdated firmware... > **[Laptop / USB Question](https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/laptop-usb-question/13320/2)** > > You’ve taken the first steps into taming the beast. Respect is due, but keep deepening your understanding of how those things work, right down to the individual steps, so you can better prevent yourself being taken advantage of. Like, if you can...