# Researchers Create World's First Completely Verifiable Random Number Generator

**URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/researchers-create-worlds-first-completely-verifiable-random-number-generator/28422
**Category:** General
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**Created:** 2025-06-17T17:48:12Z
**Posts:** 4

## Post 1 by @anonymous261 — 2025-06-17T17:48:12Z

Here’s the research paper:  
[https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09054-3](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09054-3)

Here’s a breakdown of it:

> **[Slashdot](https://m.slashdot.org/story/443275)**

> The team created a system called “Twine” that distributes the random number generation process across multiple independent parties, with each step recorded in tamper-proof digital ledgers called hash chains. This means no single organization controls the entire process, and anyone can verify that proper procedures were followed. During a 40-day demonstration, the system successfully generated random numbers in 7,434 of 7,454 attempts – a 99.7% success rate. Each successful run produced 512 random bits with mathematical certainty of randomness bounded by an error rate of 2^-64, an extraordinarily high level of confidence.

I would assume that this would be really good for high-risk security projects, but I’m not sure this if is completely essential for lesser-risk users who want to make a secure password and can already use dice.

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## Post 2 by @KathyM — 2026-02-07T03:13:33Z

Couldn’t you just use a 4k camera pointed at a lava lamp like cloudflare? [Lavarand - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavarand). They also combined it with a double pendulum and a geiger counter.

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## Post 3 by @anonymous420 — 2026-02-07T03:35:43Z

I think the goal of the research project was to have a RNG be quantum (so that it is truly random rather than pseudorandom) and, more importantly, verifiable/[traceable](https://random.colorado.edu/concepts/traceable-randomness) (so that it’s output is verified to be quantum and untampered with). The lavarand would be neither of those. I’m not a physicist or a cryptologist though, so I can’t speak on how novel this research is. Seems neat though.

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## Post 4 by @Libre_Software_Enjoyer — 2026-02-11T23:44:51Z

If you want to get verifiable entropy for yourself:  
Use some dices, favorably casino grade.

If you want to get entropy that can be verified independently, so you want to prove that something is a random choice:  
Use the a proof of work Blockchain like Bitcoin or Monero and point to the hashes of future blocks, these are impossible to predict/tamper (Even if you would control the miners, cause the miner just guess the hash and don’t chose them)