Why should this tool be removed? ProtonVPN should be removed from recommendations as its kill switch for MacOs is known to not work: When switching to another ProtonVPN server On computer boot up → In both of these instances, the user’s real IP becomes exposed to any online service it is connect…

[image] anon61753997: and it’s been proven feasible to implement a kill switch on a platform, I mean, it seems that this problem is unique to Proton, so even with this addition it still doesn’t meet the requirements. [image] anon57862721: It wasn’t as fool proof as Mullvad is [imag…

[image] ignoramous: Without a functional “killswitch” (one that’s at least enforceable on installed / 3p apps even if OEM / 1p apps are exempt), the clients by recommended VPN providers aren’t even required to do that. So, in essence, PG might as well stop recommending using VPNs, altogether? …

Perhaps instead of beating up on whichever VPN, we should be focusing on Apple. They are the problem. From IVPN - When using Apple services on iOS 16+, a VPN connection does not fully protect your privacy against Apple. Even with an active VPN connection and kill switch enabled, traffic from your…

This is actually one of the reasons why I reckon that it might be a good idea for VPN clients to start being evaluated separately from the VPN providers themselves, since many features of various first and third-party VPN clients may be dependent on specific OS capabilities and lower-level APIs that…

Another reason why ProtonVPN should not be specifically targeted for removal, is because features of various first and third-party VPN clients may be dependent on specific OS capabilities and lower-level APIs that they provide for them to be possible. A couple examples of this seem to be: IVPN li…

[image] anon61753997: They can call it a “weak kill switch” or whatever and clearly explain that OEM / 1p apps are exempt. In my view, the definition of the term “kill switch” is fixed, and they better not obfuscate it. You okay with “weak end-to-end encryption”? If not, why not? [image] …

My point being is that removing Proton sets a precedent.

[image] anon4692472: removing Proton sets a precedent. Yeah, a good precedent: PrivacyGuides follows its own rules and requirements and no brands are above them

Then it’s fair to bring up other providers that also fail to meet the standard.

[image] anon4692472: it’s fair to bring up other providers that also fail to meet the standard. Not in this thread. You are free to make a new thread about IVPN’s iOS killswitch if you choose. This thread is about ProtonVPN’s failure to meet requirements on macOS.

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You okay with “weak end-to-end encryption”? If not, why not?

How about, Educate, not sell.

Start a separate thread about iVPN or a thread on changing the criteria and other such inaccuracies of the VPN page?

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