# Remove ProtonVPN

**URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/remove-protonvpn/33980
**Category:** Tool Suggestions
**Created:** 2025-12-19T14:24:09Z
**Posts:** 359
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## Post 182 by @ignoramous — 2026-03-06T13:12:13Z

> [@anon51983832](#):
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> If anyone can contradict me and argue that more information does leak, go ahead

Yes, there could be bugs in the implementation and there could be intentional leaks, too; all of which, a VPN app that is subject to & _compatible_ with “killswitch” will prevent.

> [@anon51983832](#):
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> personally follow PG’s recommendation precisely because all I’m looking for is to protect my browsing habits from my ISP

Why? All PG recommended public VPN providers are subject to similar data collection regime as the ISPs.

> [@Leak confirms GrapheneOS & Motorola partnership for non-Pixel hardware](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/leak-confirms-grapheneos-motorola-partnership-for-non-pixel-hardware/35840/74):
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> For instance, [EU’s e-Evidence directive from 2026](https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32023R1543), specifically authored for “network-based services” like “proxy services”, requires storing even the encrypted data (which clearly, they plan to decrypt if they could obtain the keys, too; which, in some schemes, are derived from or locked behind end-user passwords).

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> [@jonah](#):
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> killswitches are generally _not_ OS-provided or OS-assisted on major **desktop** platforms.

Did mention Windows, which does have a functional killswitch, from what I can tell (but I don’t use Windows, so I can’t test this). As do Linux-based OSes.

> [@jonah](#):
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> whether you need a killswitch, and how robust that killswitch needs to be, is more dependent on your specific threat model

Are we saying it is okay for VPN clients to not be _compatible_ with “killswitches” even when the OS provides one (which all major OSes do)? If so, where does the client-side guarantee PG claims on behalf of VPN providers for “hiding the traffic” then come from?

Note that, without “killswitch” there’s absolutely no guarantee that the VPN client itself isn’t leaking any traffic either unintentionally (due to bugs) or intentionally (compromise). Going back to e2ee Drive analogy, is PG comfortable recommending e2ee products that may miss encrypting docs due to bugs or even deliberately?

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