The plan was (is still, I think) to have Mullvad Browser “sunset” arkenfox once it is ready.
I haven’t seen it mentioned here before, but Mullvad Browser is currently working on “Persistent mode,” which will also remove the specific need to use Mullvad Browser for regular browsing and use arkenfox for login once it is shipped, and just using Mullvad Browser for both would be the recommendation.
But I guess that would be discussed in a new thread once it lands.
Doesn’t ETP Strict block third party cookies? Or is the implementation of FPP not working as intended? What about Total Cookie Protection?
Maybe I misunderstood, but I would like to learn about potential deficiencies here.
ETP Strict does not block third-party cookies. It instead blocks third-party cookies that are known trackers and partitions the rest.
This is intended.
This is using Total Cookie Protection.
Even after applying arkenfox user.js script with firefox you need to tweak many settings to harden the firefox further. It’s better to remove firefox completely and give mullvad browser a first place.
I am against. If mullvad browser was NOT binded to their VPN, then it’s okay. Yeah, you can use external VPN but still. Main is not removable or replaceble. Plus not everyone needs such high level of anonymity.
If you need anonymity - then go with Tor.
But many people (especially newbies) just wanna more privacy without breaking most websites. This level of need is exactly what solved by arkenfox or LibreWolf
Mullvad is not made to use as a main browser.
They are working on persistent mode, but until it’s done, Firefox / Librewolf have their places.
And no harm in recommending both when they do come out.
I am against. If mullvad browser was NOT binded to their VPN, then it’s okay.
It’s good news and there’s no reason to view it negatively. Mullvad VPN was founded in March 2009 , which means it has been operating for 17 years . This long-standing commitment to privacy and transparency is a clear indicator of trustworthiness, which is exactly why the Tor Project partnered with Mullvad in 2023 . Their shared mission to fight mass surveillance and protect digital rights made the collaboration a natural fit.
Plus not everyone needs such high level of anonymity.
It’s not about anonymity they provided a clean version of Firefox for us. There is no AI, no telemetry, or any of these privacy-invasive features at all.
But many people (especially newbies) just wanna more privacy without breaking most websites. This level of need is exactly what solved by arkenfox or LibreWolf
I use the Mullvad Browser daily and have never had it break once.
This is the first time I’ve seen someone complain about it. I don’t mind if you downvote me, but I’d like to know why those four users downvoted my comment. I’ve already received responses from two there are still two more. I’d like to hear directly from them: @james1992 @null
Mullvad is not made to use as a main browser.
They are working on persistent mode, but until it’s done, Firefox / Librewolf have their places.
It’s easy to configure mullvad browser in persistent mode why do you need to wait for them. I am using mullvad browser as main browser i had no problems with it so far.
Even so, it is commercial, alternative-less project. You cannot configure frowser to use for example selfhosted VPN. You cannot cut-off paid service away.
This looks lire PR step. For clean firefox version we have LibreWolf.
It’s not like i am agains Mullvad browser at whole, but recommending ONLY this browser is not good idea, because it is not suitable for all cases.
For example i use LibreWolf for ages, and never had any issues with it…
You cannot configure frowser to use for example selfhosted VPN. You cannot cut-off paid service away.
It’s not true Mullvad browser is free and independent of the Mullvad VPN service.
The main appeal of Mullvad browser is their anti fingerprinting features that make you identical to other Mullvad Browser users like how Tor Browser works if you change settings, download add-ons, etc. You fingerprint would become more unique and will defeat the purpose of Mullvad browser. You would probably be more unique then other recommend browsers because how niche Mullvad Browser is and is based on ESR.
Mullvad browser is great as a default browser for open links and for browsing the internet, reading etc. I personally wouldn’t use it for logins.
I feel like we’re starting to drift a bit off-topic by discussing the idea of using Mullvad Browser as a “do-everything” browser. That said, it’s actually a pretty interesting idea and probably deserves its own thread.
Personally, I currently use Mullvad Browser only for reading news and general browsing. I don’t use it for logins. However, the idea of using the persistent mode is appealing to me for a practical reason.
Even though separating browsers by purpose sounds ideal in theory, in practice it’s easy to slip up. For example, when I’m using my “login browser,” I might click a link while logged into some service, which opens a new tab to something unrelated. Later on, I might continue exploring that topic in additional tabs without really thinking about it. Before I realize it, I’ve essentially used the login browser for general browsing, something I originally intended to avoid and that would have been better done in Mullvad Browser.
Because of this, I sometimes wonder whether trying to perfectly separate tasks by browser is actually realistic. In practice, the convenience of normal browsing habits tends to blur those boundaries.
So I’m starting to consider whether using Mullvad Browser as a more general-purpose browser, including logins, could actually be less harmful than constantly trying to enforce strict browser separation and occasionally failing at it.
Of course, Tor still occupies its own separate space in this discussion and serves a different purpose entirely. What I’m really trying to think through is whether abandoning the idea of a dedicated “login browser” in favor of a simpler workflow might ultimately lead to fewer mistakes. We probably would need to keep a Chromium based browser as a backup for some websites that may have issues to open on Mullvad browser. The idea sounds seducing, with some recent reading in the forum reinforcing improved security on Firefox based browsers reducing the gap to Chromium browsers, at least for desktops.