Why should this tool be removed? User Soatok published a blog post that detailed security issues with Matrix’s OLM library. In response, a lead dev complained about the criticism on HackerNews and ended up admitting that they didn’t fix known side-channel vulnerabilities for years. (See addendum-20…

We won’t be removing Element, as we mention Element specifically which uses vodozemac. The author claims that is not effected. We don’t recommend every other matrix client which hasn’t had an audit, and we don’t believe that Matrix.org should be responsible for making sure unmaintained/hobby client…

I don’t use nheko. Is it this one: Link . If yes, it seems they also used libolm.

What do you propose for a discord/community alternative instead of Matrix/Element?

While i agree with you and @Tech-Trooper this is already the case: we do not recommend them for long-term or sensitive communications [image] The Best Private Instant Messengers - Privacy Guides Encrypted messengers like Signal and SimpleX keep your sensitive communications secure fr…

Don’t really need one tbh. If you wanna use discord use discord. Main purpose is for public chats.

Seconding the removal. I don’t understand computer code but that article has enough “technical trash talk” that I am scared of any encryption matrix devs submit. Unrelated, the few encrypted rooms I visited were public which defeats the point of encryption.

Although it is very tempting just to say “fxxk yes“, I think PG team, if decided to follow up on this “new“ issue, could reach out matrix for their response, and see if Matrix’s response/ remedy plan is acceptable. Given a POC is already provided by @soatok , I think PG team should take it seriously…

[image] TinFoilHat: I think PG team, if decided to follow up on this “new“ issue, could reach out matrix for their response, and see if Matrix’s response/ remedy plan is acceptable. Matrix did respond: [image] Analysis of reported issues in vodozemac Matrix, the open protocol for…

[image] anon48875053: It’s good for hosting communities, but it shouldn’t be recommended for 1:1 communications. Still a lot better then for example Discord considering privacy, security and software freedom.

I want the Matrix / Element recommendation to be rescinded. The Matrix protocol is a fragile mess, lacks proper perfect forward secrecy, leaks stupid amounts of metadata, and is not meaningfully open. Relevant comments from the GrapheneOS Foundation: https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/1879270157…

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anonymous544 (anonymous544) February 19, 2026, 12:48pm 23

Should this post be revived? A new article by @soatok talks about cryptographic issues in Vodozemac. I can’t understand the article since I’m not a cryptographer so I will put it in this thread for relevance.

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