# Questions about Google Wallet (and GrapheneOS)

**URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/questions-about-google-wallet-and-grapheneos/19799
**Category:** Questions
**Tags:** software
**Created:** 2024-08-01T15:29:58Z
**Posts:** 11

## Post 1 by @Milus — 2024-08-01T15:29:58Z

Hello,  
I have some questions about Google Wallet please. For it work properly on GrapheneOS, it requires Play Services to have access to SMS and phone. And I have some questions please:

The first question is simple: is there a way to add Wallet to the drop down menu?  
Second: Should I assume that every pass I add and payment I do through wallet will be used by Google for tracking?  
Third: Granting access of SMS and phone to Play Services, should I assume Google will get every SMS and phone call I make?

Thank you very much in advance!

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## Post 2 by @CyberOtter — 2024-08-01T15:40:06Z

Google Pay does not work on GrapheneOS. While the wallet app can be installed and used for things like flight passes, no payments can be made.

Check out the official forum:

> **[Wallet - Google Pay - GrapheneOS Discussion Forum](https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/475-wallet-google-pay)**
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> GrapheneOS discussion forum

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## Post 3 by @Milus — 2024-08-01T17:59:06Z

Thank you but Google Pay works with GrapheneOS. NFC contactless payment does not work.

Anyway, my questions are still open.

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## Post 4 by @jonah — 2024-08-01T18:38:39Z

> [@Milus](#):
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> Should I assume that every pass I add and payment I do through wallet will be used by Google for tracking?

Yes

> [@Milus](#):
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> Granting access of SMS and phone to Play Services, should I assume Google will get every SMS and phone call I make?

I’m not _personally aware_ of anything that Google runs on Android to collect this data, but they absolutely would have the technical capability to do so, yes.

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## Post 6 by @Milus — 2024-08-03T08:56:34Z

Thank you. It is sad that it is difficult to find a middle ground for privacy / convenience for using phones features.  
Having an almost fully working Wallet (minus NFC) respecting privacy with GrapheneOS would have a been great.

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## Post 7 by @somatostatin — 2024-08-06T11:03:23Z

> [@jonah](#):
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> I’m not _personally aware_ of anything that Google runs on Android to collect this data, but they absolutely would have the technical capability to do so, yes.

The Google messages app sends the phone number of the message sender to google, and the google dialer app will send the phone number of every phone call received if you have “See caller and spam ID” enabled.

Source: [https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-031-25538-0\_29](https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-031-25538-0_29)

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## Post 8 by @Milus — 2024-08-06T11:48:50Z

Interesting. But these are Google Dailer and SMS apps, not AOSP Apps or Play Services. Right?

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## Post 9 by @ph00lt0 — 2024-08-06T11:57:36Z

Well if you use the now default messages app it syncs all your SMSes to the cloud, so pretty sure they do. So Gplay scans all your messages for tokens etc, doubt they will leave it at that.

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## Post 10 by @somatostatin — 2024-08-06T12:01:36Z

Yeah it doesn’t apply to the AOSP apps. As for play services, who knows?

I accidentally gave play services access to it once, and I decided to burn the account and wipe the device.

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## Post 11 by @ph00lt0 — 2024-08-06T12:04:07Z

What you probably want is what is being suggested here [Support loyalty cards, library, drivers, rec center.. – The Voice of the Proton Community](https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/960668-proton-wallet/suggestions/48672314-support-loyalty-cards-library-drivers-rec-cente)