Proton deletes account of a journalist doing responsible disclosure to the South Korean Government

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So the account was just deleted, right? They never turned over any actual encrypted data to any agency? If this is the case, I don’t see a problem with it, especially if they violated the ToS.

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Anyone know how Proton determined this was a TOS violation without reading the customers’ emails? Smells like a load of fish paste.

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Proton claims the low iteration rate for Linux is due to the relative rarity of (skilled) Linux developers. Not sure if true but Andy said it on Reddit.

As for the main topic, the critics are making so many assumptions that it smells like FUD.

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Everyone who is not caught in the proton subscription trap and/or has direct interest in the service (employee, investor, etc.) can see how objectively bad this is. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth that privacy community that is aligned with Proton would immediately peddle the words of Andy Yen and Proton as the truth when they have been known to be liars (check how they changed advertising post the climate activist case). The amount of grace they are given is incomparable when people turn on Microsoft, Google, and Apple for far less. There is no FUD or larger campaign, its just a bad reason given by them.

They could also separately ban just email for these random requests from anyone that they comply with (when there is no clear violation of law or ToS) instead of selling a combined suites and making people lose their passwords, calendars, etc.

The orientation of the forum is clear, and commentators seem to dislike truth seeking while readers seem to like it judging from the reactions. Here is phrack zine, an entity known to not lie like Andy yen and proton, presenting their side:

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well proton mail doesn’t encrypt the emails in the recipient’s mailbox, popular misconception about that. No doubt that’s where law enforcement obtained a copy for their subpoena.

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You can buy Proton VPN / Mail / Unlimited with XMR now, so they do support Monero and I don’t think they purposefully go against the user for the sake of govt: Digital Goods by ProxyStore

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