# Poll: Is Federation/Decentralization bad? (and notes on XMPP)

**URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/poll-is-federation-decentralization-bad-and-notes-on-xmpp/29526
**Category:** General
**Created:** 2025-07-27T21:58:18Z
**Posts:** 17
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## Post 17 by @anon11657877 — 2025-07-28T21:14:32Z

> [@TheDoc](#):
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> XMPP (for the most part) is absolutely [not very private or secure](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/why-not-xmpp/13792/2)  
> I’d say it is a security nightmare.

Matrix is even worse.

- [https://raw.githubusercontent.com/libremonde-org/paper-research-privacy-matrix.org/master/part1/README.md](https://raw.githubusercontent.com/libremonde-org/paper-research-privacy-matrix.org/master/part1/README.md)
- [https://raw.githubusercontent.com/libremonde-org/paper-research-privacy-matrix.org/master/part2/README.md](https://raw.githubusercontent.com/libremonde-org/paper-research-privacy-matrix.org/master/part2/README.md)
- [What happens when a Matrix server disappears?](https://blog.erethon.com/blog/2023/06/21/what-happens-when-a-matrix-server-disappears/)
- [Matrix notes - anarcat](https://anarc.at/blog/2022-06-17-matrix-notes/)

> [@TheDoc](#):
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> If you want an anonymous, secure, decentralized messenger, I think SimpleX Chat would be my first recommendation. Matrix and/or Session would perhaps come in second or third. I don’t foresee any situations where I’d use or recommend XMPP.

At least OMEMO supports forward secrecy so that would put XMPP above both Element and Session.

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