# Peergos - Private storage, sharing, social media and application platform **URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/peergos-private-storage-sharing-social-media-and-application-platform/11825 **Category:** Tool Suggestions **Tags:** completed **Created:** 2023-02-16T13:26:15Z **Posts:** 51 ## Post 1 by @dngray — 2023-02-16T13:26:15Z Looks promising now that they are out of beta, and have had an audit Previous discussion was at [🆕 Software Suggestion | Peergos · privacyguides · Discussion #165 · GitHub](https://github.com/orgs/privacyguides/discussions/165) --- ## Post 2 by @ianopolous — 2023-02-16T13:53:26Z Thank you for opening the discussion here, Daniel. I’m happy to answer any questions. We’re a lot further on now and have a built-in markdown browser: > **[Markdown browser](https://peergos.org/posts/markdown-browser)** And people can write their own private apps without needing to worry about servers, authentication, encryption, storage or sharing: > **[A better web](https://peergos.org/posts/a-better-web)** --- ## Post 3 by @ianopolous — 2023-02-16T13:53:57Z As well as a new deeper level of access control: > **[Release the BATs (block level access control in IPFS)](https://peergos.org/posts/bats)** --- ## Post 4 by @ianopolous — 2023-02-16T16:29:55Z We’ve also moved to paid only signup on [peergos.net](http://peergos.net). If anyone here wants a signup link to a free account, email me - peergos at peergos dot org. Anyone can also self host for free if they want, and interact with anyone on any other server as well (it’s a P2P protocol). They don’t even need a domain name to do this if they access a localhost instance of peergos (writes are transparently proxied over TLS - without depending on DNS or TLS certificate authorities - to your home server). We’ve moved to paid only because we think it results in a more sustainable business and keeps our interests aligned with the users, rather than, say, taking investment which needs a return. --- ## Post 5 by @ianopolous — 2023-03-20T20:54:00Z > [@Tresorit Cloud Storage](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/tresorit-cloud-storage/3679/12): > > And until there’s an open source option that matches Tresorit’s reliability, stability, and feature set (maybe Proton Drive in a few years?) … it’s a valuable option. Hi Mika, What do you consider Tresorit’s main features? Have you considered Peergos, which is open source and audited? [Peergos - Private storage, sharing, social media and application platform](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/peergos-private-storage-sharing-social-media-and-application-platform/11825) --- ## Post 6 by @mika — 2023-03-21T14:01:33Z Off the top of my head, Tresorit has the following great features in addition to its audited encryption scheme: - Native sync apps for every major platform - Seamless file explorer integration on every major platform - Photo sync with mobile apps - Fully functional web interface - Sharing with full access control, including passwords, limited viewcounts, expiration dates, and access logs. - Extensive file versioning - Up to 4TB of storage per account The Peergos page simply shows a log in prompt so I don’t know which of the above it may also offer - though from the pricing page it seems that 500GB is the maximum storage, which is a non-starter for my needs. --- ## Post 7 by @ianopolous — 2023-03-21T14:38:38Z Thanks for the list, mika. We do plan on increasing the max storage to several TB. In terms of features, we have: - native mount of your peergos space (or a sub folder) on windows, linux and mac - no file size limit, including shared files - fully functional web interface, including huge files and streaming video - offline access (read only for now) - meta-data protection even from the server (file size, number of files, directory structure, social graph) - open source and fully self hostable, including mirroring an account on another server - unlimited devices - access sharing and revocation to files and folders without the server seeing who has access to what - built-in apps (text editor, markdown browser, PDF viewer, calendar, social media) - ability to write your own apps and share them There are more details here: [https://book.peergos.org/](https://book.peergos.org/) --- ## Post 8 by @jerm — 2023-03-21T21:21:17Z There’s no mention of your privacy policy/terms in the footer. [https://peergos.net/privacy.html](https://peergos.net/privacy.html) PG currently requires offering a free plan or trial period for testing as minimum criterion [The Best Private and Secure Cloud Storage Providers - Privacy Guides](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/cloud/#minimum-requirements) Also, is there any plans for adding cryptocurrencies as a payment option? --- ## Post 9 by @ianopolous — 2023-03-22T13:42:13Z Thank you for the suggestions, jerm. We’ve reinstated our demo server so people can try it out for free. This is linked from the signup page. Also, unlike pretty much all other similar services our server is 100% open source and self-hostable. So those capable of self hosting can also try it out that way. We aim for zero lock-in and easy migration to a different host, whilst still keeping all your data and social connections. The privacy policy and terms are only relevant to the [peergos.net](http://peergos.net) server. As peergos is self-hostable, anyone, including other companies, can run their own server with their own privacy policy. Users can still share with anyone on any server. If there is enough demand, we could add support for more payment options, it’s mainly a question of resources. --- ## Post 10 by @jerm — 2023-03-22T17:21:21Z Thanks for listening to my suggestion/feedback. Will definitely check it out. At [https://peergos.net/](https://peergos.net/) both password field lacks a placeholder or any indicators to give a bit of context, it might be confusing. --- ## Post 11 by @ianopolous — 2023-03-22T20:48:47Z Thanks for the further suggestion, jerm. We’ve added placeholders to all the password fields now. --- ## Post 12 by @ianopolous — 2023-03-27T16:26:31Z I saw someone asking about searching encrypted files, [Cryptomater question: are encrypted files searchable if uploaded to OneDrive, Google Drive, etc? - #4 by HauntSanctuary](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/cryptomater-question-are-encrypted-files-searchable-if-uploaded-to-onedrive-google-drive-etc/12151/4) , and thought I’d mention you can search in Peergos either by metadata or full text search in the web ui. The search is performed locally, and it downloads on demand the encrypted blobs if they aren’t already cached locally. You can see a demo in our old UI here: [Fast Encrypted File Search](https://peergos.org/posts/file-search) --- ## Post 13 by @ianopolous — 2023-08-04T11:13:45Z Hi folks, We’ve just done a big new release, which includes two factor auth (TOTP and webauthn) [https://peergos.net/public/peergos/releases/v0.13.0](https://peergos.net/public/peergos/releases/v0.13.0) I think that means we now satisfy all the minimum requirements for Cloud Storage, and all but one of the best case requirments. We also have some unique features that none of the others have. What do people think? --- ## Post 14 by @pitly — 2023-08-05T22:40:59Z This thread is the first time I heard about Peergos - it looks interesting, so I signed up to play around more! --- ## Post 15 by @ianopolous — 2023-08-06T08:49:08Z Hi pitly, Thanks for signing up. I’m happy to answer any questions here. Or I can offer a guided tour where you can ask questions I’ll talk you through some of the hard to find features or tech if you want. --- ## Post 16 by @pitly — 2023-11-17T18:19:28Z After using Peergos for the last few months, I am liking the features :slight_smile: I have not focused on the private social network aspects, but I have played around with the storage, sharing/secret links, and markdown editor/browser and they work well for my use cases. Overall it reminds me of CryptPad/CryptDrive, although I understand that the feature set focuses on different things. --- ## Post 17 by @ianopolous — 2023-11-22T10:47:03Z Thank you for your support pitly! We’ve also drastically reduced our pricing (by more than 4X) and added two more plans. You can see the latest pricing here: [Pricing](https://peergos.org/pricing) --- ## Post 18 by @ianopolous — 2023-12-08T15:51:45Z We’ve added a block based notes app. You can see an example note file in the link below. Remember, anyone can add their own custom apps, even on our server. We explain how this works here: [A better web](https://peergos.org/posts/a-better-web) These apps are private, sandboxed and served E2EE just like all other data in Peergos. > **[Peergos](https://peergos.net/#%7B%22app%22:%22markup%22,%22path%22:%22demo/media/notes%22,%22args%22:%7B%22filename%22:%22demo.note%22%7D,%22writable%22:false,%22secretLink%22:true,%22link%22:%22%236MDZhRRPT4ugkJuUfcWtaZodN5QYzkZKJtHpDHomFJrVhNSZysiFYimpgtcA2F/6MDZhRRPT4ugkJuUfcRzRbPpFimcBNJx2N9TJDnL4W3ETYhwdsWdvgCkXkwipF/tUTzTE3R3MBM1JnTDTkjP5rbgg7rT2aRAdEbXAwZftcRJFmAPZJn42yVhmuaisCoo2gqbMoybqk17v38uojcrFBZNAjLkF/5Pf7SvouDJ24n5M7UET8bs8b5NYTqkqHeGBRVYevFtjndtizkPM%22,%22open%22:true%7D)** --- ## Post 19 by @anon90831229 — 2023-12-09T16:48:19Z Couldn’t find that info easily, so asking here @ianopolous : Are there containers published on any registry to run this with Docker, Podman or something similar? --- ## Post 20 by @ianopolous — 2023-12-09T17:15:35Z Yes, our latest release docker image is here: [web-ui versions · peergos · GitHub](https://github.com/Peergos/web-ui/pkgs/container/web-ui/156152979?tag=v0.14.1) --- ## Post 21 by @ianopolous — 2024-02-11T19:32:58Z In light of the recent Skiff acquisition I’d like to reiterate that we do not have VC investors. We actively build to protect users against us being bought or shut down by giving them easy exit (automatic migration, open source servers and self hostable, and portable data and identity (host independent). We wrote our thoughts on this previously when keybase was acquired: [Keybase has left the building](https://peergos.org/posts/keybase-left-building) --- ## Post 22 by @dngray — 2024-02-12T12:00:39Z I’ve had a bit of a look at this today. I really like the introduction tutorial, and it’s pretty well designed as you’d expect. The product feels rock solid, which is quite unusual with a lot of the privacy based approaches we see. Personally I would be happy to add this and I could see myself using it. It feels like the best usecase for this would be a small “pod” or unit/workgroup, maybe between a few friends or employees of a company. --- ## Post 23 by @ianopolous — 2024-02-12T12:37:15Z Thank you for trying it out @dngray. The cool thing about using a p2p and self-authenticated protocol is it doesn’t matter what host you are on - you can friend and share etc. with anyone on any other server. The idea is that those who want more control can self host, but most people can sign up to someone else’s server without any loss of privacy. --- ## Post 24 by @landordragen — 2024-02-12T13:13:09Z @ianopolous can you please enlighten me about access on mobile devices? Does it have to be done via browser or is there any other way? --- ## Post 25 by @ianopolous — 2024-02-12T13:20:06Z @landordragen We’ve been working on an android app, but it’s not there yet. However we do have a mobile friendly PWA, which also supports offline reads of anything you have locally cached. --- ## Post 26 by @landordragen — 2024-02-12T13:22:59Z Good to know. Thank you for replying so quickly. --- ## Post 27 by @ianopolous — 2024-02-28T09:42:05Z We’ve just published a new release, v0.15.0. You can get it or read the release notes here: [Release Latex support, 15x less bandwidth · Peergos/web-ui · GitHub](https://github.com/Peergos/web-ui/releases/tag/v0.15.0) This includes latex support in the notes and markdown apps, 15x less bandwidth and 3x less cpu usage for self hosters and a bunch of bug fixes and optimisations. --- ## Post 28 by @ianopolous — 2024-03-01T08:40:16Z > [@dngray](#): > > Personally I would be happy to add this What’s the process from here for being included? Is there anything we can do to help? --- ## Post 29 by @dngray — 2024-03-02T11:46:51Z > [@ianopolous](#): > > This includes latex support in the notes and markdown apps, 15x less bandwidth and 3x less cpu usage for self hosters and a bunch of bug fixes and optimisations. I might have to check that out hey. The next step would be a PR, which the team would work on, or a contributor after approved status (which this has reached). --- ## Post 30 by @anon97654407 — 2024-03-02T16:05:40Z > [@dngray](#): > > or a contributor I’m ready to work on that, but in what category should we put the service in? Cloud storage? File sharing and sync? --- ## Post 31 by @dngray — 2024-03-02T16:18:08Z > [@anon97654407](#): > > Cloud storage? File sharing and sync? I would think this would fit under productivity as a collaboration platform. --- ## Post 32 by @anon97654407 — 2024-03-02T17:47:54Z @dngray :+1: @ianopolous Also, Peergos is only a web app, right? --- ## Post 33 by @ianopolous — 2024-03-02T19:50:40Z Our focus is on cloud storage as our foundation is a p2p file system, but there are apps for productivity like docs and calendar built on top of that foundation. We can stream large video e2ee in the browser too which is cool. You can also write your own web apps and run them on [peergos.net](http://peergos.net). There is a native app with both a CLI and a web interface. You can for example login on localhost to an account on a server like [peergos.net](http://peergos.net). --- ## Post 34 by @anon97654407 — 2024-03-02T19:51:57Z I am speaking about clients here, (like accessing my Peergos directly from my Windows/LInux/Mac), not about custom apps that you can add. --- ## Post 35 by @ianopolous — 2024-03-02T19:54:32Z Yes we have a Java client which includes the CLI and web interface. This runs on windows, linux and mac, or anywhere else with Java. But I wouldn’t recommend the Java client for people who aren’t comfortable with a CLI. --- ## Post 36 by @anon97654407 — 2024-03-02T19:56:10Z Is there any file manager integration (i.e. Accessing my files directly from my file manager)? --- ## Post 37 by @ianopolous — 2024-03-02T19:57:18Z There is a FUSE mount command yes. But I don’t think that works on Mac anymore, and not sure about windows. On Linux it is fine. --- ## Post 38 by @anon97654407 — 2024-03-02T19:58:21Z Interesting. Thanks for the responses :slight_smile: Also, where can I download that CLI/Java app? I don’t seem to find any link. --- ## Post 39 by @ianopolous — 2024-03-02T20:01:19Z We publish jars and release notes here: [https://peergos.net/public/peergos/releases](https://peergos.net/public/peergos/releases) and also on github: > **[Releases · Peergos/web-ui](https://github.com/peergos/web-ui/releases)** > > The Web interface for Peergos. Contribute to Peergos/web-ui development by creating an account on GitHub. --- ## Post 40 by @ianopolous — 2024-03-02T20:05:46Z We describe running it locally here: [GitHub - Peergos/Peergos: A p2p, secure file storage, social network and application protocol](https://github.com/peergos/peergos?tab=readme-ov-file#usage---running-locally-to-log-in-to-another-instance) and the CLI here: > **[GitHub - Peergos/Peergos: A p2p, secure file storage, social network and...](https://github.com/peergos/peergos?tab=readme-ov-file#cli)** > > A p2p, secure file storage, social network and application protocol (There is only 1 binary which includes the server, client, web-ui and CLI) --- ## Post 42 by @ianopolous — 2024-03-07T16:18:16Z @anon97654407 Can I check what category you’re planning on putting us in? --- ## Post 43 by @anon97654407 — 2024-03-07T16:39:59Z I will put your service in the Productivity section. If you disagree with that, then don’t hesitate suggesting where your service should be :slight_smile: Also, the PR should be live soon! --- ## Post 44 by @ianopolous — 2024-03-07T16:58:54Z Thanks, we are definitely aiming for the Cloud Storage section. Though we aspire to fit in Productivity as well in the future, I don’t think we meet all the criteria for that yet (specifically realtime document collaboration). --- ## Post 45 by @dngray — 2024-03-08T12:18:46Z There is no reason it couldn’t be both, we’ve done that in the past I think with Nextcloud. --- ## Post 46 by @anon97654407 — 2024-03-08T12:33:51Z Here’s the PR : > > > Changes proposed in this PR: > > - Add Peergos in the Cloud Storage and Productiv…ity section > > https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/peergos-private-storage-sharing-social-media-and-application-platform/11825 > > @ianopolous If you want something to be changed, don't hesitate to reach me out! > > > > > - [x] I have disclosed any relevant conflicts of interest in my post. > - [x] I agree to grant Privacy Guides a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, transferable, royalty-free, irrevocable license with the right to sublicense such rights through multiple tiers of sublicensees, to reproduce, modify, display, perform, relicense, and distribute my contribution as part of this project. > - [x] I am the sole author of this work. > - [x] I agree to the [Community Code of Conduct](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/code_of_conduct/). @ianopolous If you found a problem, then don’t hesitate to reach me out. @dngray So, if I put the service in 2 categories, It should still have the same description, right? --- ## Post 47 by @dngray — 2024-03-08T16:38:05Z > [@anon97654407](#): > > @dngray So, if I put the service in 2 categories, It should still have the same description, right? Maybe try to highlight the specific features that relate to the category. --- ## Post 48 by @anon97654407 — 2024-03-08T18:14:01Z OK. I will modify the PR soon enough to make the changes. --- ## Post 49 by @anon97654407 — 2024-03-09T18:45:29Z @ianopolous About real time collaboration, is it currently in the works? I need that info for the PR. UPDATE: I put Peergos in the productivity section :+1: @dngray @ianopolous Review the PR. --- ## Post 50 by @ianopolous — 2024-03-09T19:24:28Z We definitely want to add real-time doc collaboration in the future, but we’re not working on it right now. --- ## Post 51 by @jonah — 2024-04-08T05:20:54Z > **[Release 2024.04.08 · privacyguides/privacyguides.org](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org/releases/tag/2024.04.08)** > > What's Changed > > Add Peergos in Cloud Storage section by @rollsicecream in #2429 > Separate browser extensions page by @jonaharagon in #2461 > Add VPN comparison table by @jonaharagon in #2478 > Bring bac... --- ## Post 52 by @jonah — 2024-04-08T05:20:57Z #completed in [Add Peergos to Cloud section (#2429) · privacyguides/privacyguides.org@04c37b9 · GitHub](https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org/commit/04c37b9cdf5a19ec15cba0f2168c8941bb9989ff)