In the long run, likely all of these.
However, the very first release of this feature will likely be “pick one of the Mullvad DNS servers”.
Cool, thanks! Looking forward to DoH. 
Not sure if this is the right thread, but we have found a bug with Apple’s includeAllNetworks implementation that makes some devices unable to connect to the internet on device wake from sleep.
Nothing is leaked, but it may be very confusing to users.
Reposting our workarounds:
Workaround 1: Turn off “Strict Leak Protection”
- Disconnect from Obscura VPN
- Turn off “Strict Leak Protection” from the “Settings” tab
- Connect again and check for connection leaks here: https://obscura.net/check/
Workaround 2: Force a reconnect when the problem arises
If you see that Obscura is stuck on “Reconnecting” when your devices wakes from sleep:
- Click “Cancel Connecting”
- Wait for Obscura to disconnect
- Connect again
We fully understand that this is not ideal and are working to resolve this issue ASAP (given that a solution is possible with Apple’s includeAllNetworks API). Thanks to the users who reported this issue.
We’ll get to the bottom of this!
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Sorry for being kind of nitpicky, but the Obscura website says Obscura’s
the first VPN that can’t log your activity and outsmarts internet censorship
Obscura came out February 11, while the first non-beta Nym release was January 30 to my knowledge
Maybe instead of saying Obscura is the first VPN to do what it does, you could call it the first battle-tested VPN to what it does. Obscura uses Mullvad as an exit node, which has been battle tested and raided by the Swedish police.
Does this service offer any advantage over simply multihopping two different VPN services (eg, proton, mullvad) in the usual manner?
yes, if LE reads both logs, they know who you are.
Also if you connect to domains and site profiles that are essentially yours, they know who you are.
Obscura essentially decoupled browser history and your isp’s internal nat’s IP.
though I would like the mac app to be feature parity with mullavd mac app & wireguard clients (kill switch, auto connect, split tunneling, etc)
also some 2FA would be nice like passkey.
There are no logs collected by either.
I think what Obscura is saying is that even if it wanted to track users it couldn’t (except having metadata on when user use it and how much data, which isn’t insignificant either).
Worth noting that Obscura only uses Datacamp for their entry servers and they also only use Mullvad’s Datacamp servers for their exit servers.
The setting to use the fastest connection seems to always use the exit server in the same city as the entry server. Since both are Datacamp, it might even be the same exact location.
more users use obscura more this is irrelevent.
bandwidth they can’t know
I don’t understand your reply.
I really like what I’ve seen so far. The only pet peeve I have is that Obscura is technically not a VPN. VPN is a technical name with a technical definition. I don’t like that we’re twisting that definition. It can create unnecessary confusion.
Fortunately, Privacy Guides already has a name for these services—Multi-Party Relays (a.k.a MPRs)— and has written an excellent introduction article for them.
If Obscura gets recommended in the future, I suggest the team put it in a new, different section called Multi-Party Relays, which can include other services like Safing. (I don’t know much about Safing and it may be incorrect to call it an MPR, so please correct me if I’m wrong.)