To my understanding, GrapheneOS replaces a lot of default Android connections to Google with connections to either GrapheneOS services or GrapheneOS-operated proxies in front of Google’s services (see: Comparison of Android-based Operating Systems ). It’s good for de-Googling, but this is an example…

update: Connectivity differences in Android ROMs main ← grapheneos-privacy opened 10:06PM - 20 Aug 24 UTC (UTC) [image] jonaharagon …

I disagree. Following your logic, DuckDuckGo and Startpage are useless. You only have to shift trust when there is a need for trust. With their 10-days data retention policy ( Frequently Asked Questions | GrapheneOS ), there is less reason for you to trust them. Plus, many of these can be disabled, …

[image] anon80779245: Following your logic, DuckDuckGo and Startpage are useless. This implies that I think shifting trust is useless, which I have never said, so you are not correctly following my logic. Privacy Guides notes the usefulness of shifting trust often, for example: How Do VPNs P…

For the VPN example, this isn’t an example of shifting trust. Privacy Guides require VPN provider to not log queries (verified with open source client and audited servets) , have good security policy and allow anonymous account creation. This is precisely, as stated by Privacy Guides so you don’t ha…

Re-read the linked quotation: Using a VPN hides even this information from your ISP, by shifting the trust you place in your network to a server somewhere else in the world. A privacy policy is not a technological privacy measure.

[image] marsha: privacy policy is not a technological privacy measure. Not logging with verification from third-parties is. Anonymous (Monero OR Cash) payments is.

Hm, well this makes sense to me. Like @anon48875053 said, this is generally a good thing, and we can point out how this is a differentiator between GOS and other ROMs like LineageOS. Looking at the Android ROM page I see that our entries on GrapheneOS and DivestOS are rather short in comparison to …

GrapheneOS also allows you to change internet connectivity checks back to Google, so you can blend in with billions of other devices if you’re using a VPN or Tor because internet connectivity checks are made outside of a VPN tunnel. So changing it back to Google might be useful if you want to hide t…

[image] anon48875053: So changing it back to Google might be useful if you want to hide the fact that you’re using GrapheneOS. That’s also probably something good to point out, although I’d have to look more into whether this is actually the case. The phone would still connect to some GOS ser…

[image] jonah: That’s also probably something good to point out, although I’d have to look more into whether this is actually the case. The phone would still connect to some GOS services like update servers presumably… or I could be wrong, but I think a VPN is a simpler/safer way to hide network…

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It replaces necessary connections with its own or just proxies things to Google. Things that are unnecessary can be disabled in the settings. I don’t understand what you are trying to achieve with this post.

Note: GrapheneOS has a very good privacy policy, compared to Google’s. So using GrapheneOS services and proxies is a considerable boost to privacy.

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