# Mullvad launches metadata pattern analysis protection (Beta on Windows) **URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/mullvad-launches-metadata-pattern-analysis-protection-beta-on-windows/18210 **Category:** General **Created:** 2024-05-08T09:43:21Z **Posts:** 16 ## Post 1 by @anon80779245 — 2024-05-08T09:43:21Z > **[Introducing Defense against AI-guided Traffic Analysis (DAITA) | Mullvad VPN](https://mullvad.net/en/blog/introducing-defense-against-ai-guided-traffic-analysis-daita)** > > Even if you have encrypted your traffic with a VPN (or the Tor Network), advanced traffic analysis is a growing threat against your privacy. Therefore, we now introduce DAITA. --- ## Post 2 by @user1 — 2024-05-08T10:09:24Z That’s very interesting, I’m wondering if it has an impact on performance. --- ## Post 3 by @anonymous176 — 2024-05-08T15:10:43Z Wonder why they decide to start the beta on windows of all things --- ## Post 4 by @anon80779245 — 2024-05-08T15:23:01Z Windscribe has a similar feature where they will send random packets but that can consume up to 10GB per hour. They didn’t mention a huge traffic increase in the blog post or the press release so they might have optimized it to have only modest impact on performance. --- ## Post 5 by @user1 — 2024-05-08T15:27:12Z > [@anon80779245](#): > > Windscribe has a similar feature where they will send random packets but that can consume up to 10GB per hour That is huge! How can it be usable? --- ## Post 6 by @jerm — 2024-05-08T16:33:42Z > **[Decoy Traffic | Windscribe](https://windscribe.com/features/decoy-traffic/)** > > Spoof your actual download and upload speeds to add an extra layer of security. Anonymize yourself even further by using the decoy traffic feature to randomly generate traffic bursts at selected interval > **[Combating Traffic Correlation Attacks - Decoy Traffic Mode](https://windscribe.com/blog/combating-traffic-correlation-attacks-decoy-mode/)** > > One of our principle goals at Windscribe is to create innovative features to > enhance our users' online privacy. We spend a lot of time interacting with our > userbase to ensure that we are building software that our users actually want > (and in many... --- ## Post 8 by @mangomango — 2024-10-15T15:10:22Z > [@anon80779245](#): > > Windscribe has a similar feature This is only avalaible on Android afaik. @yegor Will you try to release it for iOS and desktop ? --- ## Post 9 by @yegor — 2024-10-15T16:02:46Z Its coming to iOS soon too. On desktop, you can simply run a torrent client that downloads + seeds at the same time as browsing, which effectively does the same thing. --- ## Post 10 by @mangomango — 2024-10-15T16:04:22Z > [@yegor](#): > > Its coming to iOS soon too. nice to hear ! thank you for the tip for desktop. Wouldn’t it be possible to do the same on mobile however ? --- ## Post 11 by @anon63378630 — 2024-10-15T16:14:49Z Why do they all have to give them fancy marketing names? Tor has done this for years and keeps it simple: [connection padding](https://spec.torproject.org/padding-spec/connection-level-padding.html) and [circuit padding](https://spec.torproject.org/padding-spec/circuit-level-padding.html). They both also have a reduce option more suitable for mobile users, which I defaulted on in Orbot seven and five years ago respectively. It is also pitiful how Mullvad still only supports their padding feature on ~8 servers. --- ## Post 12 by @anon80779245 — 2024-10-15T16:58:02Z > [@anon63378630](#): > > They both also have a reduce option more suitable for mobile users, which I defaulted on in Orbot seven and five years ago respectively. To be fair DAITA is now available on mobile as well. --- ## Post 13 by @anon63378630 — 2024-10-15T17:04:58Z > [@anon80779245](#): > > To be fair DAITA is now available on mobile as well. Yes, but does it do less padding than it would on desktop? (I checked, they have no docs or FAQ about this.) edit: filled [[Feature request] Mobile data concerns about DAITA · Issue #6987 · mullvad/mullvadvpn-app · GitHub](https://github.com/mullvad/mullvadvpn-app/issues/6987) --- ## Post 14 by @anon80779245 — 2024-10-15T17:11:20Z > [@anon63378630](#): > > Yes, but does it do less padding than it would on desktop? A bit out of subject, but here is my speed with DAITA. ![screenshot-speedtest](//forum-uploads.privacyguidesusercontent.com/original/2X/b/bdc5d1cf4f5e0d799c313fc4984a553c44b78768.png) WIthout DAITA I have 21 mbps. So clearly there is a big sacrifice in bandwith to make. --- ## Post 15 by @anon63378630 — 2024-10-15T17:12:44Z > [@anon80779245](#): > > WIthout DAITA I have 21 mbps. So clearly there is a big sacrifice in bandwith to make. I strongly suspect this is not an issue of DAITA, but the fact that they only have it enabled on 8 servers and they are overloaded/saturated as a result. --- ## Post 16 by @anon80779245 — 2024-10-15T17:16:11Z I guess that would be a bad news/ good news scenario. To be precise, the 21 mbps was with the same location as DAITA. My usual server give me 75mbps. (just tested).