# Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division **URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/mozilla-foundation-lays-off-30-staff-drops-advocacy-division/22161 **Category:** General **Created:** 2024-11-06T13:34:35Z **Posts:** 21 ## Post 1 by @anon48875053 — 2024-11-06T13:34:35Z > **[Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division | TechCrunch](https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/05/mozilla-foundation-lays-off-30-staff-drops-advocacy-division/)** > > This is the second layoff at Mozilla this year, the first affecting dozens of staff on the side of the organization that builds the popular Firefox browser. Mozilla just can’t stop taking L’s. --- ## Post 2 by @Regime6045 — 2024-11-06T13:57:48Z If this is really just hitting the advocacy division and not the Firefox programmers then it doesn’t matter much. It may even be good if they get rid of the people responsible for some of Mozilla’s more controversial and out-of-scope political activism. Hopefully they will focus more on their core products and the tech. --- ## Post 3 by @anon29374801 — 2024-11-06T15:27:39Z > [@Regime6045](#): > > If this is really just hitting the advocacy division and not the Firefox programmers then it doesn’t matter much. First, I would like to remind people that behind these layoffs that “don’t matter much” are real people who have lost their job. That matters. Second, I think the first round of layoffs is where the Browser and Privacy folks were hit. > This is the second layoff at Mozilla this year, the first [affecting dozens of employees](https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/13/mozilla-downsizes-as-it-refocuses-on-firefox-and-ai-read-the-memo/) who work on the side of the organization that builds the popular Firefox browser. --- ## Post 4 by @anon73250778 — 2024-11-06T15:28:33Z How about their CEO taking pay cuts, huh? No? Advocacy can still be useful. At least leave one person to do it. --- ## Post 5 by @anon48875053 — 2024-11-06T15:43:09Z The amount of L’s that Mozilla took in 2024 is record-breaking. --- ## Post 6 by @bigdzi — 2024-11-06T16:00:59Z @anon48875053 amount of what? what is `L`? > [@HauntSanctuary](#): > > How about their CEO taking pay cuts, huh? @HauntSanctuary that’d be nice :slight_smile: --- ## Post 7 by @anon48875053 — 2024-11-06T16:02:05Z > **[Reddit - The heart of the internet](https://www.reddit.com/r/EnglishLearning/comments/12thndb/what_is_l/)** --- ## Post 8 by @anon42475305 — 2024-11-06T16:16:42Z On a related note, [this](https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/aw-XYrMFb0A?si=yem4UB5JbQ9gISpO) video gives some insight into Mozilla’s situation, and to some extent, their direction under the new CEO. --- ## Post 9 by @anon73250778 — 2024-11-06T16:21:41Z W is win and L’s are losses --- ## Post 10 by @bigdzi — 2024-11-06T16:57:38Z @anon42475305 good, informative vid. Thank you for opening my eyes to things I wasnt even aware of. --- ## Post 12 by @anon42475305 — 2024-11-06T20:36:38Z > [@benm](#): > > sold sex toys in their online store. Source? Even if that’s true it surely accounted for a negligible percentage of profits. > [@benm](#): > > Wildly inappropriate. You’re welcome to have your opinion but it seems out of place here. They’re advocating for privacy friendly products which is particularly important with such sensitive information. --- ## Post 13 by @overdrawn98901 — 2024-11-06T21:01:23Z > You’ve been blocked by network security. > To continue, log in to your Reddit account or use your developer token As is the Reddit VPN life. --- ## Post 15 by @anonfox — 2024-11-06T21:25:39Z Perhaps [Does Your Sex Toy Use Encryption?](https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/news/does-your-sex-toy-use-encryption/)? I don’t think they “sell” them though --- ## Post 17 by @Dkama — 2024-11-07T21:38:38Z Let’s face it, Mozilla sucks. Google doesn’t make this information public, but does anyone think that the Chrome development team has a half-billion dollar yearly budget? I bet it doesn’t, and it makes a much better product with probably a _lot_ less money. We might have a better chance of Tor moving to a chromium-based solution than of Mozilla fixing Firefox bugs and creating a decent, safe browser with proper isolation. Madaidan’s site is censored in r/Firefox because it’s “outdated” but the Bugzilla issues he links are still open, some of them for almost a decade. --- ## Post 18 by @crossroads — 2024-11-08T04:56:43Z > [@Dkama](#): > > and it makes a much better product There’s no single chromium based browser I prefer to use over Firefox. And maybe only Vivaldi has so many useful features, that it’s worth using. At work we only have Chrome & Edge allowed and it’s PITA for me to use them every day --- ## Post 19 by @exaCORE — 2024-11-08T05:47:55Z They probably have a much bigger budget if anything… --- ## Post 20 by @anon48875053 — 2024-11-08T10:12:22Z Because Chromium is actually doing something and improving with huge wins like these: [https://xcancel.com/parityzero/status/1818346978281222400#m](https://xcancel.com/parityzero/status/1818346978281222400#m) Couldn’t say the same about Firefox, especially when it comes to security. --- ## Post 21 by @Dkama — 2024-11-11T12:08:14Z > [@crossroads](#): > > There’s no single chromium based browser I prefer to use over Firefox. You’re talking UI. Meanwhile Firefox doesn’t have site process isolation, gpu process isolation, now cookie encryption as @anon48875053 pointed out, and is pwn2own silver medalist after Samsung Galaxies (yes, this is hyperbole, I have no idea)