Move Crypt.ee from E2EE Cloud Storage To Productivity Tools

Filen cloud storage by DanielProg39 · Pull Request #345 · privacyguides/privacyguides.org (github.com)

There was a request here for filen.

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I have doubts about the reliability of small cloud storage providers, particularly when it comes to storing crucial files. Despite the high level of security they may offer, it is uncertain if these services will exist in the long-term due to issues with resources or limited scalability.

I have doubts about the reliability of small cloud storage providers, particularly when it comes to storing crucial files. Despite the high level of security they may offer, it is uncertain if these services will exist in the long-term due to issues with resources or limited scalability.

For small cloud storage providers, it’s hard to make people trust them as their only cloud storage provider.

Proton and Tresorit meet the minimum bar for me.

IIRC, Proton owns their data centers and manages object storage in-house. They have been around for a long time and have built trust and business. Tresorit is using Azure for object storage, and they have various business customers. Hopefully, they are in a good place w.r.t business model and service reliability.

Filen has just one or two members in engineering. They are relatively new, and the pricing model (low prices & lifetime plans) might be concerning.
Cryptee’s pricing indicates a healthy profit margin. I don’t know about their team size.

But, if we don’t give new players a fair chance to survive and improve, it won’t help us as customers. We will end up with sub-optimal products, which will never gain enough traction to become mainstream products like Proton or Signal.

Whatever cloud provider you choose, make sure they provide an easy way to export. And follow the standard 3-2-1 backup strategy for peace of mind.

It was discussed over in Filen cloud storage by DanielProg39 · Pull Request #345 · privacyguides/privacyguides.org · GitHub, presently we’re not confident with it.

Would it be prudent to start a new request here? Seems that the argument against listing it is simply because it doesn’t have an audit, but they publish the source to github.

Full disclosure: I’m a customer of Filen, but I am also a customer of almost every major cloud storage service. :wink:

I don’t think PG is a promotion page. Unfortunately, they have to compete with companies such as Proton and Mega, and prove that their business model is viable in the long term.

Cryptee has addressed this in their FAQ.

Q: “Is Cryptee financially sustainable? What happens if Cryptee runs out of money?”

A: “Cryptee is a profitable, financially sustainable company, that runs 100% on subscriptions. Even if everyone stopped paying today, we keep enough reserves for multiple years. So if you’re using a free plan, and don’t want this to happen, consider subscribing to one of our paid plans. It will help us outlive your grandchildren.”

Q: “What happens if Cryptee shuts down some day?”

A: “What happens if Google or Apple or Facebook or any other company shuts down some day? Nobody can predict the future. But we are building our company slowly, steadily and carefully, — without the usual, unsustainable silicon-valley-style-rush —, so that we won’t have to close our doors some day. Reach out to us — tell us what you’d like to see us do in the event that this day comes some day, and we’ll do our best to make your wish happen.”