Man.. we/the privacy community needs to have a support group where we can ship some things to others if they can’t purchase it in their own country.
Grass roots movement of sorts. Communication and transaction will need to be trust based if privacy/anonymity is to be maintained.
Just an idea.
If you believe your idea is viable, start a topic in the General > Project Showcase category.
I have no project to showcase. Also, I haven’t flushed out this idea. I’m open to discussing it with others here for sure.
Though I do believe such an idea is viable. How much and what pitfalls it will have are the questions. Also, the details need to be figured out.
But it can work. We can all help each other in this and a more real way.
I’m too shy to make a post on this particularly. If someone else does.. I’ll happily participate in the discussion.
Either you own the idea or no one else will.
In the privacy space, any good idea that benefits all is for all to own as they want. But alright. We’re getting off topic here.
If something is unavailable in certain region and cannot be shipped from other countries, I think it is very difficult to combat on civilian level “legally“.
Yeah, I’ve found that a lot of stuff that is developed for B2B is generally compatible if not overkill for B2C applications. Graphene is developing the same OS regardless and isn’t doing anything special. Seems the worst case upfront will be a pricy phone. That can easily be scaled down over time with removing extra hardware that is enterprise focused to make a consumer model. Companies rarely limit themselves to a niche, especially when they already dump substantial amounts of energy setting up the enterprise models. Also it looks like there will be a continuation if support for consumer Pixel phones in the near future.
Either way Motorola is benefiting from community trust and transparency. Graphene benefits from its first formal support of an OEM. If these do well which I think is likely, we can expect other OEMs to follow and build competition on pricing and features. Then it becomes a race on which phone and company is most trustworthy, giving the community a lot of leverage and money through bidding wars. Provided the Graphene leadership remains focused in the mission when this power comes about, we only stand to benefit.
We as a community definitely need to remain healthily sceptical of intentions as always, but so far I feelmore optimistic for the benefits over the clear risks of dealing with modern for profit entities.
That is good news, thanks for sharing this 
Well I never said I want to avoid everything. Mitigating is exactly what I am talking about. If I see a fully made and assembled phone in china and a phone that has only parts from china and is assembled elsewhere, I think it is clear which one gets more points.
About GOS I don’t want to go into this again, but I do not entirely trust them. But its good that they will not use stock firmware as nicotiu shared.
I’ve always wanted to try a flip and I heard motorola makes one of the best ones. This just keeps getting better!
and their government set …. I can’t say
I can get this if someone is doing activism that might get you on China’s shit list, but in all honesty in my own activism it’s US aligned countries that would have more issue with what I do.
If I had to choose between the Chinese government versus 5 Eyes spying on me I’d go with the former in a heart beat.
I would install GOS on my own so I would delete that os installation if possible