# InviZible Pro (Tor, I2P, DNSCrypt) **URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/invizible-pro-tor-i2p-dnscrypt/12094 **Category:** Tool Suggestions **Created:** 2023-03-17T18:29:41Z **Posts:** 32 ## Post 1 by @Xamovo — 2023-03-17T18:29:41Z Orbot is recommended on PrivacyGuides. Is there any reason to why InviZible Pro isn’t recommended? > **[GitHub - Gedsh/InviZible: Android application for online privacy and...](https://github.com/Gedsh/InviZible)** > > Android application for online privacy and security --- ## Post 2 by @jonah — 2023-03-17T19:50:09Z I don’t know what advantage it provides over Orbot, and on Android we would recommend using the built-in DNS over TLS functionality rather than DNSCrypt. --- ## Post 3 by @L_ishere670 — 2023-03-22T14:05:25Z Orbot is not working in some countries like mine and the firewall feature in Invizible pro is amazing plus there is DOH instead DOT and an option DNScrypt plus the DNSsec option and some anti man in the middle attack option and i can say this app is just amazing, Give it a try please. --- ## Post 4 by @anon63378630 — 2023-03-22T14:20:39Z Invizible may be nice for power users, but has far too many foot guns imo. @L_ishere670 I don’t see how Invizible does anything differently than Orbot that would help it bootstrap. --- ## Post 5 by @L_ishere670 — 2023-03-22T20:27:47Z Invizible pro is a competitor to RethinkDNS with a better interface and more options like being able to allow lan connection only feature for an app which RethinkDNS don’t have. P.s RethinkDNS is listed in privacy guides website. --- ## Post 6 by @ph00lt0 — 2023-03-23T15:21:54Z as DNS provider not the app, right? Apples and pears. --- ## Post 7 by @anon43879818 — 2023-05-07T03:13:36Z I read that this app also supports i2p. So I would like to be reassured that its legit by seeing it listed in PG. --- ## Post 8 by @anon28734771 — 2023-07-18T11:42:10Z I would suggest trying to use both Orbot and InviZible Pro and compare them, and then you will see the advantages. The better question is if there is any reason not to recommend InviZible Pro. --- ## Post 9 by @Laitinlok — 2023-07-19T13:23:56Z DNSCrypt is more private than DoT because thede ir less header that is sent to the dns server that can identity the client, encryption wise it uses the safe curves for ECC instead of curves that are supported by TLS. DNSCrypt uses X25519 ECC and Xchacha20-poly1305 or Xsalsa20-poly1305. X25519 ECC(Curve25519) are considered safe curves in this site [https://safecurves.cr.yp.to/](https://safecurves.cr.yp.to/). --- ## Post 10 by @anon28734771 — 2023-09-22T13:49:02Z I have been using InviZible Pro for quite some time now, and here are the biggest advantages over Orbot: 1. With Orbot you can only whitelist apps that will be routed over Tor, whereas with InviZible Pro, you can whitelist or blacklist apps and even websites that will be routed over Tor. 2. You have to disable killswitch if you want to exclude an app from being routed over Tor with Orbot, whereas with InviZible Pro you can have killswitch enabled and still route apps over clearnet. --- ## Post 11 by @anon39565454 — 2023-09-24T17:01:04Z Why? DNS over TLS is one of the easiest thing to block, literally just a single port. It being built in is nice but it’s still the weakest encrypted dns method --- ## Post 12 by @anon28734771 — 2023-11-28T09:02:44Z Can InviZible Pro be a drop-in replacement for Orbot? If so, are there any settings that need to be changed? I don’t want to stand out from Orbot users. I really don’t like how Orbot is distributed, etc. 1. It’s outdated on both the Play Store and the Guardian Project’s F-Droid repository. 2. The Guardian Project F-Droid repository got removed from F-Droid because it contains some proprietary stuff and Orbot is not available on F-Droid’s official repository. 3. You can only obtain it from GitHub, but the developers can’t even be bothered to tag beta versions as pre-releases, and all the other releases are release candidates (RC), which is confusing. Meanwhile, InviZible Pro is available on the official F-Droid repository without any bs. --- ## Post 13 by @anon63378630 — 2023-11-28T16:55:15Z > [@anon28734771](#): > > It’s outdated on both the Play Store and the Guardian Project’s F-Droid repository. I keep a copy of the latest stable release in my DivestOS Unofficial repo: [https://divestos.org/apks/unofficial/fdroid/repo/](https://divestos.org/apks/unofficial/fdroid/repo/) This is critical because the actual current latest has a leak involving IPv6. > [@anon28734771](#): > > because it contains some proprietary stuff Tor Browser and Orfox before it both contained Google Play Services. F-Droid was like 4 years late to remove it despite notification. > [@anon28734771](#): > > Can InviZible Pro be a drop-in replacement for Orbot? Not unless they add an ez mode. Otherwise it still has too many foot guns. People will activate eg. dnscrypt and think they’re protected like used to be peddled years ago on forums. --- ## Post 14 by @anon28734771 — 2023-11-28T17:53:09Z > [@anon63378630](#): > > I keep the a copy of the latest stable release in my DivestOS Unofficial repo: [DivestOS Unofficial](https://divestos.org/apks/unofficial/fdroid/repo/) It even has .onion mirrors, cool. But it includes the latest available versions even if they’re beta. Is it a good idea to daily drive beta versions of Orbot? --- ## Post 15 by @anon63378630 — 2023-11-28T17:54:54Z @anon28734771 they’re _all_ beta or RC --- ## Post 16 by @anon28734771 — 2023-11-28T18:00:34Z Okay, just got the latest version from your repo, thanks. --- ## Post 17 by @jerm — 2024-04-02T12:49:12Z Any updates? [InviZible Pro (Tor, I2P, DNSCrypt) - #10 by anon28734771](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/why-not-recommend-invizible-pro/12094/10) seems enough to replace Orbot. --- ## Post 18 by @dngray — 2024-04-02T13:04:00Z > [@anon63378630](#): > > I keep a copy of the latest stable release in my DivestOS Unofficial repo: [DivestOS Unofficial](https://divestos.org/apks/unofficial/fdroid/repo/) > > This is critical because the actual current latest has a leak involving IPv6. Did this ever get fixed upstream? I don’t think we can add this until it has. I don’t want to be adding unofficial builds really to the website. --- ## Post 19 by @anon63378630 — 2024-04-02T13:15:36Z @dngray yes it was fixed a while back in 17.1.1-BETA-3-tor-0.4.8.7 and to be clear my repo merely mirrors the official signed builds, they aren’t unofficial rebuilds because their own F-Droid repo doesn’t always include their latest releases but I’ll keep it behind if I see issues, like I did in that case --- ## Post 20 by @jerm — 2024-06-22T10:28:14Z Contacted the dev about this thread and he replied with: > As I understand it, they are mainly complaining that the problem with InviZible is its flexibility. So the average user will not read the documentation on how to properly use the app and will make mistakes. > Well, it’s true. InviZible is a complex app and you have to learn it first. But it has a detailed explanation of all the features, so everyone can learn how to use it properly. > InviZible is not a one button solution. If flexibility is a drawback, that’s a problem. But I think most users who value privacy and anonymity are smart enough to spend some time reading the documentation and use InviZible properly. That’s my point. So I guess this also a response to “foot guns” by @anon63378630 you can point readers to [InviZible – Help](https://invizible.net/en/help/) or [Home · Gedsh/InviZible Wiki · GitHub](https://github.com/Gedsh/InviZible/wiki) so they can use it correctly. Privacyguides is now also [available on i2p](http://privacyguides.i2p/?i2paddresshelper=fvbkmooriuqgssrjvbxu7nrwms5zyhf34r3uuppoakwwsm7ysv6q.b32.i2p) so it makes more sense to recommend it now. @jonah EDIT: [InviZible Pro Beta v2.2.7](https://github.com/Gedsh/InviZible/releases/tag/v2.2.7-beta) supports [Stream isolation](https://github.com/Gedsh/InviZible/commit/0f09df27499075c0bfe7cef67850bcd19936a526) only for VPN mode which Orbot currently doesn’t. --- ## Post 21 by @anon48875053 — 2024-06-22T16:39:11Z > [@jerm](#): > > [InviZible Pro Beta v2.2.7](https://github.com/Gedsh/InviZible/releases/tag/v2.2.7-beta) supports [Stream isolation](https://github.com/Gedsh/InviZible/commit/0f09df27499075c0bfe7cef67850bcd19936a526) only for VPN mode which Orbot currently doesn’t. Oh shit, I need to try that out. --- ## Post 22 by @anon48875053 — 2024-06-22T20:29:59Z I really wonder if one can use both InviZible Pro and Tor Browser on the same profile, because you can’t do that with Orbot. --- ## Post 23 by @anon63378630 — 2024-06-22T20:41:47Z You can use Orbot + Tor Browser on DivestOS with lockdown enabled. Tor Browser and Briar are specially exempted. The past issue where Tor Browser caused Orbot to restart in same or across profiles has also been fixed in TBB 13.5. --- ## Post 24 by @anon48875053 — 2024-10-24T11:29:57Z > [@jerm](#): > > EDIT: [InviZible Pro Beta v2.2.7](https://github.com/Gedsh/InviZible/releases/tag/v2.2.7-beta) supports [Stream isolation](https://github.com/Gedsh/InviZible/commit/0f09df27499075c0bfe7cef67850bcd19936a526) only for VPN mode which Orbot currently doesn’t. Orbot still doesn’t support stream isolation and InviZible Pro does, doesn’t that make InviZible Pro a better choice? Or is there something else that gives Orbot an edge? --- ## Post 25 by @jerm — 2025-01-26T13:28:04Z We should consider InviZible Pro even more that we [i2p](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/alternative-networks/#i2p-the-invisible-internet-project) guide and eepsite. @jonah Orbot is going to be probably replaced by [Tor VPN](https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/vpn) when it is out. --- ## Post 26 by @anon48875053 — 2025-02-01T23:36:16Z InviZible Pro should replace Orbot just because of stream isolation alone. --- ## Post 27 by @anon63378630 — 2025-02-01T23:41:47Z :+1: my stance on Invizible has changed since my early comment in this thread and I definitely think it is a good option for Tor on Android especially with the default enabled stream isolation it has featured for a few months now. I am still a little concerned about [Wifi/Mobile data both on when Invizible in VPN mode · Issue #249 · Gedsh/InviZible · GitHub](https://github.com/Gedsh/InviZible/issues/249) however --- ## Post 28 by @anon48875053 — 2025-02-01T23:49:33Z I think that this response makes sense: [Wifi/Mobile data both on when Invizible in VPN mode · Issue #249 · Gedsh/InviZible · GitHub](https://github.com/Gedsh/InviZible/issues/249#issuecomment-2374434221) But still, ideally, this should be optional. --- ## Post 29 by @Privnet — 2025-04-16T23:29:24Z Voted! I love this app as it allows me not to switch between apps. Also, unique feature is i2p. As I noticed it is developed in Ukraine ([link](https://invizible.net/ru/donate/), look on the bottom and use translator) so it shouldn’t raise concerns about backdoor. Also Wireshark didn’t catch anything sketchy after test, so I think it is totally safe. --- ## Post 30 by @Resinous — 2025-09-08T00:21:22Z invizablePro has far more moves than Orbot, starting with dnscrypt over multiple anonymizers which was the only way to get around the carrier DNS lock on a prepaid government plan phone we had during COVID, they do those government contracts cheap to monitor collect and sell user data, and don’t allow any VPN or proxy connections because of the monitoring. Only things I found that could shake it was invizablePro Dnscrypt-proxy with anonymizers then once off our through Tor, or TLS tunnel dnstt DNS tunnel slowly, or port 80 tls tunnel on free servers. But, with root, it’s got 30x more moves. Can run in proxy mode with root leaving room for VPN over the top, also can ttl 64 spoof for avoiding carrier hotspot usage detection, and since bpf in kernel post android 12 broke old magisk modules that messed with IP tables, and alot of tricks for carrier hotspot or usage don’t work now because of this, you can tell invizablePro to use its own in app IP tables for the connection, which you can then mangle or apply rules to, bypassing android kernel restrictions on things. Probably the most versatile and useful connection management tools on android. --- ## Post 31 by @anon403929 — 2025-09-09T20:15:53Z I love it, It can be also use alongside with rethinkdns firewall, invisible as proxy rethink catches that through socks5. Had problem to connect robot, but with invisible worked, now have so many options both with firewall and proxy --- ## Post 32 by @Expert4870 — 2026-03-05T06:32:52Z Any update on this? Also will the Tor VPN be added once it is stable?