# How do I buy Crypto in Germany/Europe privately?

**URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/how-do-i-buy-crypto-in-germany-europe-privately/26913
**Category:** Questions
**Created:** 2025-04-22T07:18:15Z
**Posts:** 10

## Post 1 by @apocalypticreaper — 2025-04-22T07:18:15Z

Has anyone advice on buying crypto, preferably Monero or Bitcoin, in Germany or Europe. In the past there were ‘backyard vending machines’ where you didn’t have to identify yourself but the are gone? Is there a way to buy Crypto anonymous and is this even legal?

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## Post 2 by @anon29351578 — 2025-04-22T07:39:55Z

There is [Bisq - A decentralized bitcoin exchange network](https://bisq.network/de/) for example. It is legal to buy it anonymously, but you might have to disclose the amount for tax purposes (speaking of Germamy, don’t really know about the taxes part).

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## Post 3 by @jerm — 2025-04-22T11:47:41Z

> Bisq

No.

> [@Privacy focused crypto exchange](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/privacy-focused-crypto-exchange/24687/7):
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> Bisq have a lot of tainted coins. Your best bet of “Privacy focused crypto exchange” is by using Haveno [Retoswap](https://retoswap.com/). No, from their [website](https://bisq.network/), “Your data is stored locally on-disk, and is never sent to a central server. Every Bisq node is a Tor hidden service by default.”

This also answers OP.

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## Post 4 by @ImTooPhaT — 2025-04-22T16:17:59Z

I’ll have to look into Retoswap myself since I want to buy Monero soon. Normally, I buy Bitcoin via Revolut, transfer to Cake Wallet and convert into Monero since Kraken doesn’t offer Monero anymore. Very tedious!

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## Post 5 by @anon29351578 — 2025-04-22T17:07:35Z

Does that really matter if you only buy BTC from there to buy monero?

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## Post 6 by @jerm — 2025-04-22T18:24:21Z

Yeah, everything on Bitcoin blockchain is public, so they will see that you bought tainted coins, and it went to your wallet. Afterwards when you buy Monero, everything on its blockchain is anonymous, so no "tainted"coins, all look the same.

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## Post 7 by @anonymous261 — 2025-04-23T18:26:28Z

Could there still be consequences if one uses something like Unstoppable Swap to turn the tainted Bitcoin into Monero?

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## Post 8 by @anonymous326 — 2025-04-23T19:00:43Z

what are “tainted” coins? Are those just coins attached to a users identity?

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## Post 9 by @anonymous261 — 2025-04-23T22:55:31Z

Since you can see the history of Bitcoin transactions, when people illicitly buy or sell with Bitcoin, you can see that on the coin, even if that Bitcoin has been traded later. Tainted coins may cause you trouble even if you didn’t mean to get them.

Since you can’t see that with Monero, all Moneroj are the same and can’t be tainted.

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## Post 10 by @jerm — 2025-04-24T12:36:21Z

> **[Reddit - The heart of the internet](https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1fyi68o/swapping_to_tainted_btc/)**

You are still swapping, atomic swaps are made to be “trustless” but chain & taint issue still exists with Bitcoin.

> what are “tainted” coins? Are those just coins attached to a users identity?

Depends on the way you bought it, KYC then yes. You can follow the transaction across chain.

@anonymous326