For some time now I have been assessing my online privacy. I don’t want to be followed by parties like Google and Meta. Everything I do on the internet is basically my own business. So privacy is important, I don’t have to be anonymous. When I write messages in emails or Whatsapp about a nice hotel …

[image] mangomango: Apple Pays is indeed quite privacy-respecting, more than Google Pay or your card. Jonah made a video on this. Just to nitpick, it’s the same privacy as your card. It’s more secure than your card. Different things. It is indeed both more private and more secure than Google…

[image] jonah: Just to nitpick, it’s the same privacy as your card. It’s more secure than your card. Different things. Thank you a lot !

From a pragmatic perspective (not ideological about FOSS), doesn’t enabling Google Play Services - even if sandboxed and via microG compromise any privacy advantage GrapheneOS has over iOS. Your phone is still making outgoing requests that end up on Google’s servers. I know that iOS is dependent o…

Google’s tracking can be significantly reduced in your account settings. Moreover, Google would see which apps you installed, but not the notification content. IIRC, Android encrypts most notifications.

That doesn’t change anything I’ve said. [image] USB: Your phone is still making outgoing requests that end up on Google’s servers. You can take steps to limit Apple’s telemetry as well. Your second statement about notification content is false. [image] anon21666177: Android encrypts mo…

I started a thread on that exact topic a while ago and got some very helpful answers: [image] GrapheneOS w/ Google vs iOS w/out Google General Hello, the subject says it all really. I am currently trying to decide between using an iPhone or a Google Pixel 7a with GOS flas…

I read through that thread. If people are citing sensationalist youtube videos as evidence, then they have 0 credibility in my opinion. Both choices have tradeoffs. Regardless of sandboxing, your device will still be sending data to Google with Google Play Services enabled. There are some objecti…

[image] USB: There are some major disadvantages to using GrapheneOS like the dependence on F-Droid No such dependency exists. If you choose to rely on F-Droid despite it’s security shortcomings then that’s your prerogative, but I don’t see how F-Droid can be considered a drawback of GrapheneO…

You’re right to correct me. That was an assumption that most GrapheneOS users are relying on F-Droid for their apps. I would amend my statement to say that GrapheneOS has a limited selection of apps that can be installed with proper code signing that are independently distributed (not on the Play S…

No expert here, but i had read a couple of news and comments on the internet [image] Siri Privacy Breach: Apple To Pay $95 Million Settlement Amid Spying Claims Apple will pay $95 million to settle claims Siri secretly recorded users without consent. Learn how this privacy breach affect…

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I started a thread on that exact topic a while ago and got some very helpful answers:

Topic		Replies	Views
Any use in getting GrapheneOS while keeping my iPhone? Questions	2	2102	October 5, 2023
Migrating from GrapheneOS to iOS while keeping GrapheneOS: an unorthodox experience General	1	423	June 16, 2026
Is GrapheneOS a good idea for me Questions	6	1731	October 25, 2024
From iOS to GrapheneOS and back again Project Showcase article	18	3002	March 21, 2026
GrapheneOS vs iOS (in the light of the future of Android) Questions software	6	2613	October 13, 2025

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