Chrome is still preinstalled on all Samsung devices and it can’t be uninstalled. I don’t know anything about Xiaomi.
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And people choose it over the Samsung Browser.
I mean the fact is that Samsung Browser sucks ass, so that doesn’t really say much. No one is arguing Chrome is a bad browser, just that Chrome’s dominance allows Google to dominate other markets, which is anti-competitive. The same applies to Google using Android to leverage its other apps. You won’t find an Android device that ships the Proton Suite by default.
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Which is good.
And the same should apply to Google apps as default.
Yes, but you aren’t getting Google Certified if you don’t include all the bloat. EU should just kill this certification bullshit and MEETS_DEVICE_INTEGRITY check.
Exactly which is anti-competitive. It’s hard enough to get people to switch from default apps, and you can’t even include sane default apps if you want play certification.
People on this sub go crazy to defend Google dont know anything about monopoly. The magnitude of Google owning android and pushing the default browser and search engine and Samsung or proton’s practices is completely different.
Thats why eu defined gatekeepers and go after big tech.
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Yep, I agree with @Tech-Trooper and @phnx, we just need to go back in time a little with the Microsoft case and IE.
United States v. Microsoft Corp. - Wikipedia.
Google is doing exactly the same, but the antitrust actions have been really weak in the past years.
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It’s preinstalled only on androids, nothing else. Everyone else on other platforms can choose whatever they want. They choose chrome for some reason. That doesn’t make it a monopoly.
Most people just use the default. Thats why its a monopoly
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The only default is only on android though? People choose chrome over default safari & edge.
At least read my post before responding. I wrote:
Chrome is pre-installed on Android and Chromebooks and Google Search is the default on Chrome, Safari, and Firefox, all three major browser (with their own engines). No one is arguing that Chrome is a monopoly for being a superior product, as I wrote in my other post:
They use the legitimate dominance of Chrome to unfairly advantage Google Search, thus they have an anti-competitive monopoly.
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Hopefully the us won’t just be all talk and no bite this time around. Google need to be decoupled from chrome. They’re not a safe maintainer when they try to introduce something like devices attestation targeting the open web, indirectly via chrome dominance.
Re: Your Computer Should Say What You Tell It To Say | Electronic Frontier Foundation
They also used the legitimate dominance of Gmail and Youtube to advantage Chrome. By optimizing some of the most popular sites in the world for their own browser, they anticompetitively make their browser the best.
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Android is the most used operating system in the world. There is of course also ChromeOS (which adds a few hundred million more users).
But in any case, even if we ignore ChromeOS, the correlation between (1) the rise of Chrome and (2) the rise of Android is pretty clear to my eye. This chart shows Chrome’s rise in global marketshare (yellow line) overlayed over global smartphone sales (blue bars):
Correlation is not always causation, but in this case it seems fairly safe to assume it’s more than simple correlation.
I don’t think it is coincidental that the mobile OS market is dominated by a duopoly of two (Google, Apple), and that same duopoly are the only ones who own web browsers that have managed to gain meaningful marketshare in the smartphone era. With small exceptions like Microsoft Edge (which has its own built in advantage of being pre-installed on the most popular desktop OS). To my knowledge, there has been only one browser in the 21st century to gain widespread mainstream adoption organically (as in without owning a platform to promote or preinstall the browser on).
I’m not saying it all comes down to being pre-installed, but I am saying it’s too big of an advantage and a correlation to be ignored.
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It would basically have to be a consortium of mainly-corporate developers, similar to Linux (like I suggested earlier), FreeBSD, and all these other majorly used open-source projects. Having technology consortiums that develop software is in no way a new or unique concept, so there’s a clear roadmap and precedent here…
There would be probably no overall improvement in the browser space when it comes to privacy in this situation, but at least it would be harder for Google to keep overtly adding features which solely benefit Google at the detriment of users, as they currently do.
I’m still highly skeptical this will happen anyways, especially with the incoming justice department.
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