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To clarify, I didn’t say this was the case for Tails, and maybe I’ve accidentally misled. It’s extremely likely they use something like zram as a swap device - you’d need to do more research on what happens.

You know what, one of my other work has a 4GB RAM. Its fine on Win7 with the old Win95/98 boxy theme.

It recently suffered catastrophic data loss and had to install Win10. Its just plain miserable now. I can try to boot Tails to it this Wed and I will report back.

Windows uses its own windows manager wich is embeded in the OS.
In your opinion, is this last +/- secure than X11 nowadays ?

the windows window manager or X11?

In sum, I’d just like to know wether any Linux distro running under X11 is ultimately less secure than Windows (of Micro***)

Just say Micro$oft :wink:

well while there has been some maintenance with X11 mostly also because of Xwayland and some contributor that said “Fuck it I’ll maintain X11 myself” kind of thing. Iirc Wayland still remains as one of the secure Compositors alongside the windows compositor.
But If I would pick between windows and x11, Obviously the latter (security wise).
Linux in general can be plain insecure though considering the filesystem and other things. For sure you can use Fedora (It does some good things like supporting secure boot and enabling SELinux) abd combine Secureblue and stuff like that for more secure linux experience but keep in Mind Secureblue maintains security (hardens linux rather) but not losing so much convenience so some insecurities may be in sight (basically it’s not as secure as say ChromeOS or MacOS) and if you have any questions @RoyalOughtness would be willing to answer but preferably in the thread:

or directly.

I’m gonna say ultimately it is your choice. For me due to using Nvidia and Plain Arch I don’t want to deal with Wayland + Nvidia problems (probably in the next few years before they mature?) so I just use X11 + PulseAudio since I know that they’re at least mature enough that they give me minimal issues. It is ultimately up to you but security wise I would use the new audio server + Wayland (Maybe PulseAudio is fine, not sure if Pulse is like X11 in maintenance but yeah.). Or if I want the maximum security I would just use MacOS (or ChromeOS)

Thank you so much for your explanations ! :wink:

What nvidia hardware do you have? Wayland + Nvidia is fine now on most hardware

Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 12GB :slight_smile:

Also I see, honestly I have the option to use Wayland in the greeter, just not sure…

Give it a shot, I can’t speak for arch though. On secureblue we preconfigure nvidia so it works ootb on wayland. In your case you should be on the open drivers, if you’re not already.

Ah thanks, here’s the problem, I have a 3D Game I play so I actually use the Proprietary Nvidia Drivers so it’s a problem with Wayland :sweat_smile:.
Should still give it a shot I presume then? If so Alright.

why do you need the closed drivers to play a game? Are you mixing up the open drivers with NVK/nouveau? They are not the same :slight_smile:

The closed drivers are officially deprecated last I checked, everyone on Turing or later is supposed to (according to nvidia) move to the open drivers to continue receiving support.

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hmm, according to pacman I have nvidia-dkms and nvidia-utils meaning this seems to be the propriatery. I though choosing the offical nvidia one meant it would install the open-dkms. I guess the arch installer wasnt accounted for that at the time.

yeah you want open:

again idk how arch handles the rest of the configuration though

If you switch to secureblue, we take care of this for you :stuck_out_tongue:

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Are there some applications to remove of Gnome to alleviate the RAM load ?
And which ?

To be candid, I think the best thing for you to do is to just try out whatever it is you want to accomplish. Usually installers will let you run a minimal version of the OS if you boot from a thumb drive, and you can get a basic idea of how it works. Learn some Linux utilities to get an idea of what you need to know for the system.

I believe you mean a Live session, which shows one exactly how the operating system functions. (Although for immutable systems there’s no such thing, but that’s out of scope for this topic.)

However, the OP should keep in mind Linux live sessions are slower when running purely from RAM; once it’s installed it (should be) much faster.