# Facebook messenger e2ee option not avaliable?

**URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/facebook-messenger-e2ee-option-not-avaliable/22301
**Category:** Questions
**Created:** 2024-11-10T09:33:17Z
**Posts:** 8

## Post 1 by @ComplexSimplicity — 2024-11-10T09:33:17Z

Hi, I use Fb messenger with a throwaway email and have had all (a few) chats with e2ee, now when I wanted to start one with another person, I can’t seem to find it. Can someone confirm the same, or am I just stupid?

It should exist a toggle after clicking the pen in the top right corner. But there is none there.

(save me the “use signal”-comments, I use Signal 95% of the time)

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## Post 2 by @anon48875053 — 2024-11-10T09:36:32Z

It’s the default.

[https://messengernews.fb.com/2024/03/28/end-to-end-encryption-what-you-need-to-know/](https://messengernews.fb.com/2024/03/28/end-to-end-encryption-what-you-need-to-know/)

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## Post 3 by @ComplexSimplicity — 2024-11-10T09:44:48Z

![Screenshot_20241110-104209_1](//forum-uploads.privacyguidesusercontent.com/original/2X/b/b2068015fbc678ab26e25e2756a8d56886609c2a.png)  
 ![Screenshot_20241110-104048_1](//forum-uploads.privacyguidesusercontent.com/original/2X/9/9415423ed673af303e7d536f11fa90430a1cd3e9.png)  
Why is there a difference, it says end to end on the old chat, where I had to choose it manually (started the chat (end of August).  
The new one has no indication (started today)

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## Post 4 by @anon80779245 — 2024-11-10T09:51:51Z

At least on Instagram, while they said it was the new default, this is totally false and you have to manually enable it per chat.

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## Post 5 by @ComplexSimplicity — 2024-11-10T13:02:24Z

That is the thing. I can’t enable it anymore. I have tried for an hour and read all guides I could find. Just seems it is not enabled by default, because why would there in that case be a difference between my two images?

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## Post 6 by @anon48875053 — 2024-11-10T13:46:59Z

Scroll down and you will find the “Verify end-to-end encryption” option in both chats.

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## Post 7 by @ComplexSimplicity — 2024-11-10T15:00:16Z

I was able to do it in the web app, but still not at all in the android app.

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## Post 8 by @anon80779245 — 2024-11-10T23:56:52Z

Again, for Instagram, I can’t enable E2EE for most people.