# Encrypted mail black.com **URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/encrypted-mail-black-com/21327 **Category:** General **Tags:** website **Created:** 2024-10-07T15:23:28Z **Posts:** 19 ## Post 1 by @gammexane — 2024-10-07T15:23:28Z Hello all. A friend of mind has recommended me [black.com](http://black.com) an encrypted mail services that I had never heard of… It hasn’t a free services, it is 3.5€/m, 25gb, aliases… and I quote: “Emails are zero-access encrypted (AES-GCM-256 with RSA-OAEP-4096 key sharing) with a password-derived key, which means that not even we can access the contents of your emails at rest. Our system encrypts subjects, headers, message contents, attachments, email drafts and push notifications.” Any of you know it? any review already? Thank you very much. --- ## Post 2 by @anonymous230 — 2024-10-07T15:24:36Z Sounds like proprietary trash. Say no! --- ## Post 3 by @gammexane — 2024-10-07T15:34:25Z There are others proprietary software recommended in PG, like Tresorit. I just want to know if someone knows it… --- ## Post 4 by @user1 — 2024-10-07T15:53:32Z No pgp, no audit, no in depth info on the site, dubious privacy policy, one developer? TLS in transit as an asset? Come on, same old good red flags. --- ## Post 5 by @Regime6045 — 2024-10-07T15:58:22Z > [@gammexane](#): > > “Emails are zero-access encrypted (AES-GCM-256 with RSA-OAEP-4096 key sharing) with a password-derived key, which means that not even we can access the contents of your emails at rest. Our system encrypts subjects, headers, message contents, attachments, email drafts and push notifications.” Sounds like what Startmail and Posteo are doing. The problem is that when you access your email (via browser/webmail or app/IMAP) your stuff gets decrypted temporarily. So it’s just privacy theatre. Happy to be proven wrong in this case though. --- ## Post 6 by @anon36940904 — 2024-10-07T16:14:44Z Nothing about it screams it is genuinely private and secure - with communication tools, if not open source, not worth using it. Also, it has AI with “private email service”? How stupid do the developers think people are. AI = Surveillance --- ## Post 13 by @gammexane — 2024-10-07T17:22:27Z Tuta deleted the accounts I had, one of them even paid… Proton (I was visionary) doesn’t have a single product that is not half baked. I use Linux, I can only use SimpleLogin and barely the web mail. --- ## Post 15 by @gammexane — 2024-10-08T06:20:16Z Thank you very much. I will. I will have to buy “a server” and host my own services… --- ## Post 16 by @bigdzi — 2024-10-08T12:40:28Z > [@gammexane](#): > > I will have to buy “a server” and host my own services… Agree. Thats NOT that hard :slight_smile: BTW: If you can afford, buy your own physical server. Dont go with VPS/dedicated. This will cost you higher, but its one time payment. As of red flags: here is another one: ![Zrzut ekranu 2024-10-8 o 14.46.22](//forum-uploads.privacyguidesusercontent.com/optimized/2X/c/c3f7f4d1e57d069d63e76448bf8d4df42e6f4ba1_2_690x61.png) --- ## Post 17 by @freddy — 2024-10-08T13:51:01Z > [@anon36940904](#): > > AI = Surveillance Not always, but often. Anyway, its a very slick website - but its not going to be anywhere near as private as any of [our recommended providers](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/email/). > [@user1](#): > > No pgp, no audit, no in depth info on the site, dubious privacy policy, one developer? > TLS in transit as an asset? These are all valid concerns. I also enjoy that 2FA is listed as a feature too. Cool domain, pretty website, substandard service. We won’t be recommending it unless quite a lot changes. --- ## Post 18 by @jerm — 2024-10-08T14:01:06Z Website doesn’t load without JavaScript… --- ## Post 19 by @anon48875053 — 2024-10-08T15:16:48Z Reason: lack of options.