/e/OS (Murena) and Fairphone

[Lukas (Lukas Dutovas)]

@JustDucky

Watch The Linux Experiment’s video on /e/OS. /e/OS removes some deep connection to Google from LineageOS

Comparison of Android-based Operating Systems

@JustDucky

and there is nothing wrong with positon, stop gatekeeping

Misinformation and an accusation in one sentence, nice.

[SteelPirate1458]

@JustDucky

It doesn’t have harden security but all users need is good security

It doesn’t have good security, it compromises security of Android if the phone you have doesn’t support locking the bootloader, and alongside that has vastly slower updates than even LineageOS, which is why if you have an end of life device that you want to keep using, generally LineageOS is recommended and not CalyxOS or especially /e/OS.

@JustDucky

It is still the only degoogled ROM with full alternative to Google

Not part of the criteria for Android distributions, and also I’d rather not be locked into using specific software. Not to mention, it’s literally not degoogled if it still makes connections to Google, once again, check the comparison Lukas sent.

@JustDucky

/e/OS will catch-up

They have a history of not catching up, always being slow.

@JustDucky

/e/OS removes some deep connection to Google from LineageOS

Not all of them.

@JustDucky

You are gatekeeping privacy for the majority of people in the world in the name of hardended security.

I don’t understand the use of gatekeeping here, gatekeeping the recommendations for PrivacyGuides? There’s a clear criteria at the bottom of every page. Forums are used to help people who don’t need a clear best. In this case, many seem to agree that LineageOS is the second best because many devices are supported unlike /e/OS or CalyxOS, and has good privacy with compromises to security. You can use whatever you want, believe whatever you want, but when it comes down to making recommendations it’s best not to fool people into thinking that something like /e/OS is on-par with GrapheneOS or is even recommended to replace stock. GrapheneOS is the best, and is the only one right now that fits the criteria, which is unfortunate that it is the only one since in a perfect world, we’d have more.

@JustDucky

I’m very disappointed by the gatekeeping and toxicity here.

Yes, some users here can seem a little rude, but that’s just how it is when everyone is passionate about privacy and security. Especially on such a topic that has been discussed over and over, and as a result has a lot of information on why it’s not a good choice and why it doesn’t fit the criteria to be recommended. These aren’t personal attacks on you, some people get tired of answering the same thing constantly.

[anon5410820]

I agree here, I have to deal with so many people replying to my post about /e/OS on the Fediverse and I have to paste the same links everytime it’s starting to bother me

[crossroads]

PrivacyGuides recommendations are just that - recommendations. Based on principles PG set and explained. And there knowledge base starts with threat modeling, so it’s up to each person to evaluate pros and cons of products they (want to) use. And no one gets blocked in this community for using non-recommended products.

I am the one who thinks (and have written here numerous times) alternative Android ROMs (LineageOS, iode, /e/…) have there use case and should be used, but also understand PGs stance.