# Does using my phone (no rom) without an google account cause issues **URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/does-using-my-phone-no-rom-without-an-google-account-cause-issues/13923 **Category:** Questions **Created:** 2023-09-11T15:01:47Z **Posts:** 16 ## Post 1 by @anon356863 — 2023-09-11T15:01:47Z As the title says. I am trying to leave google one step at a time and i only use the play store, but I am worried not using the account will make my device security worse or if I reset my phone it will lock me unless I add an account. I still download most foss apps from there but most of them arent there. I also heard people say f droid has security issues. Should I stick with the play store or is it okay? note: I am on a samsung phone, so im not 100% degoogled, and I cant install a rom :confused: i appreciate any help --- ## Post 2 by @anon63378630 — 2023-09-11T19:19:02Z You should use Aurora store so you can still receive updates for the Google System WebView app. --- ## Post 4 by @anon356863 — 2023-09-12T01:03:27Z if i use aurora store and get those updates, does this mean my security will be good regardless? i may have misunderstood --- ## Post 5 by @anon356863 — 2023-09-12T01:05:32Z yeah unfortunately the gps is another problem, i use netguard on my phone with dns so maybe that could fix it a bit. --- ## Post 6 by @anon63378630 — 2023-09-12T01:17:21Z Your phone likely still sends your phone number off to Google and serial number to Qualcomm: [https://divestos.org/misc/gnss.txt](https://divestos.org/misc/gnss.txt) Removing some apps is just sticking your head in the sand. --- ## Post 7 by @anon73250778 — 2023-09-12T01:59:37Z If you are still on a stock ROM, just stick with Google Playstore. Google still knows it is you anyway and you are making your attack surface larger. I feel like private phones are an all-in kind of environment with no shades of gray in between. --- ## Post 8 by @Torsten — 2023-09-12T04:16:34Z I dont get it, the system Webview along with all others should be a system app? Can you update those? Yes stock Android is a privacy nightmare. Use “package manager” from F-Droid and a Laptop with adb and uninstall as much as possible. Google Play services are locked though, and Android will spam error messages if they are “broken”. Try to find LineageOS/ResurrectionRemix/CalyxOS/divestOS/iodeOS/GrapheneOS --- ## Post 9 by @anon356863 — 2023-09-12T20:26:52Z good point, but i did still take precautions not putting my real name on google or info, they probably still know me. --- ## Post 10 by @anon356863 — 2023-09-12T20:34:25Z yes i am talking about that. I understand that, but thats not my question. I am asking if not using a google account impacts my phones security. And the question about frp lock, this has happened to me before but i wanna know if theres a way to prevent it. also about the roms, i literally cant install a rom, samsung likes to lock their bootloaders where im from. --- ## Post 11 by @anon356863 — 2023-09-12T20:45:53Z I reread my post and I think i wasn’t very clear with what I was talking about. My threat model is to limit the amount of data I give to companies, I use alternatives to apps as much as **possible.** Logically, I wont get great control over my privacy if I am using a privacy invasive phone over a custom rom. But I believe something is better than nothing, and I would definately give ROMs a try and get a new phone if I could, but personal reasons I cannot. Security is very important to me aswell, and like I said in my post, I mentioned the google account and play store because google does seem have good security, but obviously bad privacy. But again i try circumventing this with fake information and not using any google services as possible. Again, some progress is better than nothing to me. I fear removing my google account would cause security and phone issues and like I mentioned with F-Droid, I dont know if that is true. So my main question is basically is it safe security wise, will this cause an FRP lock? --- ## Post 14 by @Torsten — 2023-09-13T22:36:10Z Okay in your situation best option: use ADB and debloat as much as possible. I did a [Samsung Galaxy s9 debloat](https://github.com/trytomakeyouprivate/Android-Tipps/tree/main/debloat) already, it was the worst of all others, but I can share the app list. Be cautious, some uninstalls may break features like lockscreen camera or you get constant crash notifications. Then get a NextDNS and setup samsung, facebook, microsoft and google tracker block lists. Switch your default DNS to this one. Uninstall as much as possible, install as regular user apps when needed. Your safety is totally okay, security never has to rely on online Accounts. --- ## Post 15 by @anon356863 — 2023-09-14T03:11:29Z thanks for the advice, i have nextdns but havent tried adb yet. --- ## Post 16 by @anon356863 — 2023-09-14T03:12:32Z thanks for the clarification