# Do the previous RaivoOTP users need to do anything other than switching? **URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/do-the-previous-raivootp-users-need-to-do-anything-other-than-switching/14551 **Category:** Questions **Tags:** software **Created:** 2023-10-19T13:52:56Z **Posts:** 10 ## Post 1 by @TheAnonymousDeer — 2023-10-19T13:52:56Z I am currently on 2fas offline after RaivoOTP’s hostile take over, tho I am still a bit worried, because RaivoOTP is not fully open source and the fact that the developer lacks communication made me lost 100% trust so my question is, do I need to do anything after changing my 2fa app? Are my 2fa keys and master password for the encryption compromised? --- ## Post 2 by @anon73250778 — 2023-10-19T14:06:08Z Raivo still needs to have your password to do a full compromise. You can change passwords as you use your account, if you feel the need for it and for your sanity’s sake. --- ## Post 3 by @You_will_own_nothing — 2023-10-19T15:04:21Z The (former) developer doesn’t lack communication, at all. The new owners do. It’s a bit different. The app didn’t had any update since the takeover, so I think the trust you had still applies here, today. You can move on (like I did), but I don’t see a reason for fear mongering right now. Just uninstall the app, and remove the data from your iCloud and you should be good to go! --- ## Post 4 by @ph00lt0 — 2023-10-20T18:05:18Z Well i do not agree. Tijme basically didn’t respond for ages either and his answer were pretty lame and easy. It was his call to sell the app, it doesn’t just free you from responsibility --- ## Post 5 by @ph00lt0 — 2023-10-20T18:06:08Z You probably want to switch to Ente Auth. It will be listed on PG soon the PR for it is ready and approved. --- ## Post 6 by @You_will_own_nothing — 2023-10-20T20:21:03Z > [@ph00lt0](#): > > Well i do not agree. Tijme **basically didn’t respond for ages** either and his answer were pretty lame and easy. Of course, you don’t agree, you were the one who opened the [GitHub issue](https://github.com/raivo-otp/marketing-website/issues/19), but the poor man took **ages** by reply to you **4 days after** , even when he mentioned ([one day before your post](https://github.com/raivo-otp/ios-application/issues/271#issuecomment-1646892505)) that he would share news in the future about that. > [@ph00lt0](#): > > It was his call to sell the app, it doesn’t just **free you from responsibility** I also don’t like what happened with Raivo, but he’s free to do what he wants with his app. Responsibility of what? He did nothing wrong! Raivo was a great app, and that was all. The future of it is not connected to him in any way. _(Just to clear, I never spoke with the guy. I just don’t agree with your take on him)._ > [@ph00lt0](#): > > You probably want to switch to Ente Auth. It will be listed on PG soon the PR for it is ready and approved. Here comes Brave 2.0 again. Poor 2FAs have no chance. When the _cult of PG_ focuses their spotlight on something, the others do not have a chance. :boxing_glove: --- ## Post 7 by @ph00lt0 — 2023-10-20T22:47:12Z You make so many assumptions I cannot even count them. I do think you have responsibility as a product owner to make sure it turned over to a good company that takes care of it well and that you make good arrangements on the communication of such takeover. Clearly neither of that happend. It would be quite sensible to counter any attention of pitfalls quickly when arrise during a takeover. Radio silence was more their style. I actually know that Tijme is a nice guy (heard from) but this just wasn’t handled well. Not sure what this has to do with Brave? Neither I dont understand your comment on spotlighting. We have looked as community at many options. Ente is very close to what Raivo was and has the best available security and privacy by default just like the other recommendations on the website. --- ## Post 8 by @jonah — 2023-10-22T17:45:18Z > [@You_will_own_nothing](#): > > Poor 2FAs have no chance. There’s a 40+ post discussion here on 2FAS where the reason it isn’t recommended is clearly laid out: > [@Add 2FAS (Authenticator App)](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/add-2fas-authenticator-app/12958): > > GPLv3 Cross Platform Well Designed Zero Access Cloud Sync Transparent Team Easy Export & Import Options What more do you need? [https://2fas.com/](https://2fas.com/) They do collect some data via Google Crashlytics although I don’t think this is a major issue as they don’t require account creation and they have an opt out option in app. I would also suggest Raivo be removed as a recommendation as this seems to be a much better alternative due to its superior import/export options and cross platform functio… --- ## Post 9 by @TheAnonymousDeer — 2023-10-25T09:52:17Z As for now I am currently using 2FAs with the coud sync off, because I personally don’t like my seeds to be online My thought is that because I use Raivo months before the acquisition, so the master password is safe? I don’t think there’s a way to reverse the encryption even if Mobime decides to change the code after that but I am just a bit of a paranoid person, curious about your opinion --- ## Post 10 by @ph00lt0 — 2023-10-26T07:11:55Z I don’t think there is much risk. But they obviously could make a malicious version of the app that syncs it unencryptedly. That’s why we do not want to use an app of a non trusted body.