[EDIT: This was originally a reply in another thread. It has been moved and stripped of context in which it was made. I don’t think that was correct, but it’s not my call. I’m muting this thread and the proton one until tomorrow, to get some distance to reflect and let things settle. As it stands r…

Similarly to Forum Moderation - #56 by jonah I think this post has reached the point where everyone’s opinion has generally been shared, and we are not adding anything new to the conversation. In fact, recently this thread is veering far off-topic and into issues people have with moderation here, wh…

[image] xe3: Repeated misinformation and attempts to derail from random 6 hour old anon accounts in this thread has been frustrating, but that’s just the nature of brand loyalty and anonymous users on open forums. But for a team member to flippantly use that misinformation to justify keeping a f…

[image] xe3: favored VPN as said @dngray doesn’t even use Proton, and you being around here long enough could have known that :slight_smile: . We disagree on the other semantics too because the issue is not that we don’t want kill switches but that they frankly are unreliable and we realize t…

[image] ph00lt0: as said @dngray doesn’t even use Proton, and you being around here long enough cloud have known that I didn’t write (nor mean to imply) it is his “personally favored” VPN, but I can see how it could be misread that way given the rest of my comment. To be clear, I don’t mean t…

If anything, to me Proton seems to be a fairly disfavored solution, both broadly and within the team, so I don’t quite follow this logic, but I have definitely seen other people make the same argument as you so it comes from somewhere :man_shrugging:

Ye’old conspiracies would be my guess, the kind that originate on Reddit, the most privacy friendly platform to exist.

[image] Remove ProtonVPN we are not providing you with an SLA that demands we submit PRs within 24 hours What an odd strawman. To be clear, my issues are not so much with the time it took as the attitude of staff toward it. Like… Ignoring requests for an updated for weeks [image] Remove P…

[image] lyricism: The community was ignored because a few members of staff disagreed with the clear consensus, and rather than engaging in the discussion, the community was sidelined and finally nearly shut down. Decisions are made on merit usually not immutable consensus. The reason for this…

[image] xe3: decision based on inaccurate information without even making an effort to first understand the context or scope of the problem is in my opinion both insulting to the OP and to the people who have put a lot of effort into explaining and documenting the issue I agree with your sent…

In @dngray ’s defense, I think that thread was ridiculously confusing and people were talking over each other about completely different things constantly. I personally believe @dngray was mainly talking about the one problem described at What should we require of VPN providers on macOS? and his resp…

For me the biggest issue I had was the lack of response. I know @jonah made it very clear there is no SLA but when you have a team member in @nateb saying we will internally discuss and get back to everyone and then there is silence for 7+ weeks that doesn’t come off right. i think its reasonable …

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Disappointment with PG teams handling of the "Remove ProtonVPN" post

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jonah (Jonah Aragon) March 11, 2026, 12:42am 7

You replied right before my update at Remove ProtonVPN - #341 by jonah but since your topic has nothing to do with Proton whatsoever it does not belong in that thread, so I’ve moved it here for you.

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