For me as an end user this doesn’t affect my service.
I’m still getting the same service/software I’m already paying for, including the security benefits of source available code. This just restricts what others can do for free.
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This a jarringly selfish response. I guess we should only care if the project is free (as in freedom) when were personally affected by it.
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Or we should be willing to pay for products and services we use.
Why should Bitwarden be expected to work for free?
I dont find it selfish. He makes the best decisons, based on his best knowlege, for him and the services he uses.
Just as you.
And me.
And others. 
As for what others do, or dont do, I’m not worried about that part.
I’ll still follow the topic some to see where it goes.
If find Im wrong I’ll just switch, if not I’ll stick with BW. Simple
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You are right. Vaultwarden doesn’t need any money to host. Whereas Bitwarden self-hosting requires a subscription based licence. Potentially companies opted into it, cost-savings. That is why, they did the thing to keep the enterprise market ?
As previously said. Source available is better than going closed source.
I think people are going too hard on the FSF motto. Maybe people need to think about it factually and logically based on the present time.
1Password - alost 1 billion in VC funding and is completely proprietary.
Bitwarden - over 100M in VC funding and going proprietary?
Just go with Proton Pass…
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Protonpass also has proprietary backend.
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That’s bad, I guess I’ll just have to find a new password manager now.
Can anyone recommend a trustworthy alternative with a decent iPhone app ? unfortunately Strongbox it’s open source either.
Which doesn’t matter because Proton Pass isn’t self-hostable and is E2EE.
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Strongbox is open source under the AGPL license: GitHub - strongbox-password-safe/Strongbox: A KeePass/Password Safe Client for iOS and OS X
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That’s how the world gets shittier every day because people tolerate this kind of bullshit and show that other companies can join on it too.
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Proton Pass or check out KeePassium?
Hence why in many people’s view, it is not a suitable alternative to BW
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Makes no sense. If I dont care about proprietary backend, why would I not just use Bitwarden.
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They built themselves up as the open-source password manager. Its what people know them as. Even after this change people will still believe that. Worse of all, it seems they would have stayed quite if it wasn’t brought up, thats a problem.
You can’t just build up a reputation, then discard it once you’ve grown big enough and expect people to not get upset with you.
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Nope, SDK has been proprietary for a while now.
If you want FOSS, use Keepass or one of the forks. If you dont mind proprietary stuff, Bitwarden is still pretty good.
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I guess Bitwarden would have more money if it wasn’t sponsoring podcasts left and right like Nord VPN and Raid Shadow Legends do.
I feel torn about this. On one hand, I want BW to have a successful business model and on the other hand this seems like fuck*ng the self-hosting crowd. And a lot of Linux people are into self-hosting.
I got tired of managing my KeePass *.kdbx backups and want to have a cloud based password manager for my sanity. I hesitate to go to Proton Pass to avoid the all eggs in one basket kind of situation but it seems like there is no avoiding it as BW seems to operate in a bad faith sort of way, betraying its FOSS spirit.
By many people? Selfhosting a password manager is wild, you really need to know how to do it properly, how to keep it secure, and then maintain it instead of leaving it to dedicated professionals.
Selfhosting Bitwarden is niche and kind of advanced, not many people are doing it, and not many people should.
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Proton has stated from the start that they will not open source their backend code for any of its services because their services aren’t selfhostable and there is a lot of anti-abuse logic that would get exposed.
Meanwhile, Bitwarden was always open source, and now they’re just doing a rug pull, and it makes me sad to see people defending this move. Sigh.
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