# Are privacy-focused OEMs/companies sustainable?

**URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/are-privacy-focused-oems-companies-sustainable/32992
**Category:** General
**Created:** 2025-11-18T18:32:26Z
**Posts:** 28
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## Post 18 by @jonah — 2025-11-18T19:27:21Z

Replicant had $400K _yearly_? Or like, total?

Calyx realistically has no excuse financially-speaking, but their whole situation and organization is weird as hell to me so whatever.

> [@NovaCustom launches privacy-friendly phone: SHIFTphone 8.1 with iodéOS](https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/novacustom-launches-privacy-friendly-phone-shiftphone-8-1-with-iodeos/32835/114):
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> which is particularly jarring on a forum like this

This is a strange place compared to the rest of the internet, can’t blame people too much for the typical Reddit PR reply. (Maybe blame them a little if they can’t subsequently adapt lol)

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